# WTF??? (Iran blames Israel for Sandy Hook)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 18, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464 "2012-12-18T22:28:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/1 "2012-12-18T22:28:14Z")

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I swear, this isn’t even pit-worthy: [Iran blames Israel for the Sandy Hook shooting](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/18/irans-state-run-news-network-blames-israeli-death-squads-for-sandy-hook-shooting/)  
Apparently Israel is mad at the US for a snub regarding building in the West Bank, so our reaction was to send a death squad to shoot up the school and frame Adam Lanza.  
Oh, and for some reason the US government is cooperating in the coverup, despite the fact that the reason Israel did this in the first place is a quarrel with the administration… 😕

The crazy… It burns :smack:

This isn’t even worthy of anger. It’s just pathetic…  
(I’d like to take this opportunity to offer condolences to anyone affected by the shooting)

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/2 "2012-12-18T22:29:56Z")

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Um… yeah. Once again we have played into the hands of those crafty Israelis. They’ve really got us over a barrel this time.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/3 "2012-12-18T22:32:41Z")

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What about during National Brotherhood Week?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/4 "2012-12-18T22:52:17Z")

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It doesn’t get much lower. Using our national tragedy for their propaganda purposes.

And somewhere, someone is believing this.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/5 "2012-12-19T02:26:25Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> What about during National Brotherhood Week?

Ah! A Tom Lehrer fan. For those Dopers who don’t know or remember him, here’s a link to his classic song “National Brotherhood Week”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0Vm-8eXFgqA/hqdefault.jpg "Tom Lehrer - National Brotherhood Week - The Frost Report") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vm-8eXFgqA)

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/6 "2012-12-19T03:25:09Z")

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Meanwhile, Israeli nutcase Orly Taitz blames Sekret Muslim Obama:

> **[Why is Newtown sheriff lying about lack of connection between Adam Lanza and...](https://www.orlytaitzesq.com/why-is-the-newtown-sheriff-lying-about-lack-of-connection-between-adam-lanza-and-the-school-where-he-was-a-student-for-years-where-was-adam-lanza-in-the-days-leading-to-the-shooting-smashed-computer/)**

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> Where was Adam Lanza in the days leading to the massacre? Was he handled by someone? Was he drugged? Was he subjected to hypnosis?
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> The word assassin comes from the Arabic word “Hashish”, name for a drug, I believe correct translation is opium. For thousands of years, since ancient times assassins were drugged.
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> Was Adam Lanza drugged and hypnotised by his handlers to make him into a killing machine as an excuse as the regime is itching to take all means of self defense from the populace before the economic collapse?

In your _FACE_, Ayatollahs!

(info shamelessly swiped from davidm’s pit thread)

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/7 "2012-12-19T04:24:12Z")

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The sad thing is, I doubt this is the first time that Victoria Jackson has been more insane than Iran.

That bitch needs to be tested for rabies or something.

[Cite](http://perezhilton.com/2012-12-17-snl-comedian-victoria-jackson-compares-sandy-hook-shooting-to-abortions#.UNFAWne68_c).

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/8 "2012-12-19T04:48:02Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> It doesn’t get much lower. Using our national tragedy for their propaganda purposes.
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> And somewhere, someone is believing this.

People here, apparently. The article was written by an American Conspiracy theorist, and its main “source” is another American. Apparently, we do still export some things.

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/9 "2012-12-19T06:46:41Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Meanwhile, Israeli nutcase Orly Taitz blames Sekret Muslim Obama:  
> [Why is Newtown sheriff lying about lack of connection between Adam Lanza and the school where he was a student for years? where was Adam Lanza in the days leading to the shooting? Smashed computers and electronics in the house is an evidence that someone tried to cover up evidence. : OrlyTaitzEsq.com](http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=367385)
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> In your _FACE_, Ayatollahs!
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> (info shamelessly swiped from davidm’s pit thread)

My only defense is that she’s Israeli only in the sense that she used to live here, once.

Not that we don’t have our share of home-grown crazies; I just disclaim any ongoing responsibility for _this_ one :o

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/10 "2012-12-19T07:59:15Z")

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Something is strange here. Here is the [page in question](http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/). Press_[Tv.com](http://Tv.com)_. The actual url for the site, which I often visit is [PressTv.Ir](http://www.presstv.ir/).

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/11 "2012-12-19T08:03:23Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Something is strange here. Here is the [page in question](http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/). Press_[Tv.com](http://Tv.com)_. The actual url for the site, which I often visit is [PressTv.Ir](http://www.presstv.ir/).

[http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/](http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/) – try it, it works. It’s just multiple domain names redirecting to the same server, internally.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/12 "2012-12-19T08:04:34Z")

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Something is strange here. Here is the [page in question](http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/). Press_[Tv.com](http://Tv.com)_. The actual url for the site, which I often visit is [PressTv.Ir](http://www.presstv.ir/). It is pro Iranian as expected, but there is nothing there about the above story which reads rather less like what you normally see on PressTv.Ir. And the page in question, also has some rather interesting headlines on the left, written by persons like “Gordon Duff” and “Rodney Shakespeare”, none of which I could find else where

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/13 "2012-12-19T08:09:24Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> My only defense is that she’s Israeli only in the sense that she used to live here, once.

Yeah. “Orly” my ass.

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/14 "2012-12-19T08:12:30Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Something is strange here. Here is the [page in question](http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/). Press_[Tv.com](http://Tv.com)_. The actual url for the site, which I often visit is [PressTv.Ir](http://www.presstv.ir/). It is pro Iranian as expected, but there is nothing there about the above story which reads rather less like what you normally see on PressTv.Ir. And the page in question, also has some rather interesting headlines on the left, written by persons like “Gordon Duff” and “Rodney Shakespeare”, none of which I could find else where

Did you click the link I gave above your post? it’s identical to the original one in the WAPO story but using the www.presstv.ir domain; and it gives the same story/  
Not saying you’re wrong to be skeptical – just that the skepticism doesn’t seem to be warranted, this time 🙂

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/15 "2012-12-19T08:22:57Z")

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I missed seeing your post. Yes, I am sceptical and cynical by nature being a lawyer. But, this seems legitimate although the as it is an opinion piece written by the Gordon Duff fellow rather than a news report, its a bit of a different kettle of fish than saying that “Iran has blamed Israel”.

As an aside, my antivirus is getting ulcers or whatever the equivalent for computer programmes every time I click on it

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/16 "2012-12-19T08:32:58Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> I missed seeing your post. Yes, I am sceptical and cynical by nature being a lawyer. But, this seems legitimate although the as it is an opinion piece written by the Gordon Duff fellow rather than a news report, its a bit of a different kettle of fish than saying that “Iran has blamed Israel”.

He is, however, a **regular** (as in, [a column every day or two](http://www.presstv.ir/Contributors/248113.html)) contributor to the site, so it’s kind of artificial to claim he isn’t representing the site’s owners’ views…

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/17 "2012-12-19T10:12:17Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> He is, however, a **regular** (as in, [a column every day or two](http://www.presstv.ir/Contributors/248113.html)) contributor to the site, so it’s kind of artificial to claim he isn’t representing the site’s owners’ views…

Either way, he looks rather[like Boris Johnson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson) after one too many Big Macs.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/18 "2012-12-19T11:57:34Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> He is, however, a **regular** (as in, [a column every day or two](http://www.presstv.ir/Contributors/248113.html)) contributor to the site, so it’s kind of artificial to claim he isn’t representing the site’s owners’ views…

Duff’s a truther and Holocaust Denier. His main website is “Veterans Today”, which you’d think would be about veterans, but really is an anti-Semitic and anti-Israel website.

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/19 "2012-12-19T12:03:15Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Duff’s a truther and Holocaust Denier. His main website is “Veterans Today”, which you’d think would be about veterans, but really is an anti-Semitic and anti-Israel website.

Makes sense he’s getting tapped by an Irani state-run news-site as an opinion writer, I suppose…

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-iran-blames-israel-for-sandy-hook/644464/20 "2012-12-19T13:33:01Z")

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I’m gonna need Kozmik’s take on this before rendering an opinion. This may very well indeed fit in with the Illuminati’s nefarious schemes.

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