# WTF is it with this forum and "Og?" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 18, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537 "2006-01-18T18:54:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/101 "2006-01-18T23:34:32Z")
> [@Waverly](#): > > Petitio Principii. Your question assumes that I have a problem to answer for. I find you rather, shall we say, bewildering, as your assertion that inside jokes don’t bother you is clearly contrary to other statements you have made. But this isn’t a problem for _me_. I’ve got personality defects galore, but fear of saying exactly what I mean isn’t one of them. And as I explained, I was responding to what I saw as unnecessary snarkiness from **Wolfian**. I don’t know why you feel the need to harp on me like this - quite obviously, I have no fear of saying what I mean. Your insistence that I’m secretly thinking something other than what I’m saying is bizarre. Which leads me to think you have some sort of problem here. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/102 "2006-01-19T00:07:13Z")
> [@What Exit?](#): > > You know it is weird and possibly not related but I am pretty sure \*\*Og \*\* is mentioned in the **Moon is a Harsh Mistress** , written around 1965. > > **Maureen** , did you mean the word Geek? > > Jim Not quite—the term Mannie uses is _Bog_. Probably a corruption (Loonies? Corrupting the language? Say it ain’t so!) of the Russian _Bozhe_. ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/103 "2006-01-19T00:16:03Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Lighten up or fucko off. > [@Excalibre](#): > > I just thought **Wolfian** was being a little unnecessarily rude. I didn’t get a _rude_ vibe from that, seeing as how “fucko off” is also an oft repeated inside joke. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/104 "2006-01-19T00:17:07Z")
> [@What Exit?](#): > > You know it is weird and possibly not related but I am pretty sure \*\*Og \*\* is mentioned in the **Moon is a Harsh Mistress** , written around 1965. > > **Maureen** , did you mean the word Geek? > > Jim I did. But I see I was mistaken, anyone who knows Heinlein that well qualifies as a geek. 😉 ~ Maureen J Long (Heinlein fan and major geek) ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/105 "2006-01-19T00:18:50Z")
> [@FaerieBeth](#): > > I didn’t get a _rude_ vibe from that, seeing as how “fucko off” is also an oft repeated inside joke. Yeah, maybe I misinterpreted. I’m still not sure what brought on **Waverly** ’s burning my dog. I ordinarily enjoy his posts quite a bit, but he’s giving me an unnecessarily hard time about holding an opinion that I don’t hold. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/106 "2006-01-19T00:33:35Z")
> [@Waverly](#): > > In my opinion, Og wouldn’t be one to send you to hell, like a metaphysically time-out. No, he’d be one to approach from arrears and give you a sound embuggering. Og is much more down to earth that way than the IPU. However, I still like the Invisible Sky Pixie. IIRC, it’s _Magical_ Sky Pixie, and Invisible Pink Unicorn. Although the MSP reference has a certain rub-off from being too often used in a mean-spirited manner. Unlike Og, who is generally invoked heartily and with malice for none but the deserving. But yeah, Og has a certain regular-guy take-the-direct-approach vibe, plus he(\*) DOES smash – and sometimes you need a deity that can do some smiting of the wicked or the asshat. (Is Og a “he”?) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/107 "2006-01-19T00:40:27Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Turns out the problem was with the goggles . . . they did nothing. But that’s the beauty of it. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/108 "2006-01-19T01:14:48Z")
Maple Leafs? Shouldn’t it be “Maple Leaves”? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/109 "2006-01-19T02:07:10Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > I did. But I see I was mistaken, anyone who knows Heinlein that well qualifies as a geek. 😉 > > ~ Maureen J Long > (Heinlein fan and major geek) It appears I misremembered, I am less of a geek than I was 20 years ago, but I am still a geek. > [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Not quite—the term Mannie uses is _Bog_. Probably a corruption (Loonies? Corrupting the language? Say it ain’t so!) of the Russian _Bozhe_. You are right, when I joined here and saw TANSTAFL used regulary I at first assumed that Og was the diety also mentaioned in Moon. They are close, maybe we can pretend that Bog is a corruption of our Og, there are a lot of us here that could end up loonies if it ever came to pass. 😉 > [@JRDelirious](#): > > IIRC, it’s _Magical_ Sky Pixie, and Invisible Pink Unicorn. Although the MSP reference has a certain rub-off from being too often used in a mean-spirited manner. Unlike Og, who is generally invoked heartily and with malice for none but the deserving. > > But yeah, Og has a certain regular-guy take-the-direct-approach vibe, plus he(\*) DOES smash – and sometimes you need a deity that can do some smiting of the wicked or the asshat. > (Is Og a “he”?) It would seem Og would enjoy a good Grog after a hard days Smashing, I would guess he is a he. The IPU is definately female but the mystery is does the FSM have a gender? Jim ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/110 "2006-01-19T02:18:03Z")
(Shameless self promotion) I, too, had queried the Dopers on Og. I found [these](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256119&highlight=tenets) facts to be very helpful. I still get a kick out of reading it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/111 "2006-01-19T02:27:50Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > (Shameless self promotion) > > I, too, had queried the Dopers on Og. > > I found [these](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256119&highlight=tenets) facts to be very helpful. > > I still get a kick out of reading it. That should be in Idle Thoughts top thread list. ---
**Author:** ![Queuing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Queuing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queuing)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/112 "2006-01-19T02:35:19Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Maple Leafs? Shouldn’t it be “Maple Leaves”? No, when you play in the Centre of the Hockey Universe, spelling doesn’t apply. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/113 "2006-01-19T02:46:29Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Maple Leafs? Shouldn’t it be “Maple Leaves”? It’s a typo. It should read _Maple Laughs_. **detop** who was born exactly nine months to the day after the Maurice Richard riot so you wannabe hockey fans, better show some respect 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/114 "2006-01-19T03:08:40Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > I have no fear of saying what I mean. Your insistence that I’m secretly thinking something other than what I’m saying is bizarre. I don’t think there is anything secret about it. On the one hand, you state inside jokes don’t bother you, and other hand, you say things like: > [@Excalibre](#): > > What I’ve noticed is that some people _really_ sort of cling to them. _Those_ people are the ones who are socially stunted. Is that an impartial observation? I won’t bother to include other quotes, they are easy enough to locate. You clearly don’t think much of people who make regular use of inside jokes, and that’s fine, but why the reluctance to admit this is the case? I don’t think this is giving you a hard time. Your opinion here is like Schrödinger’s cat and I’m just fiddling with the lid on the box. Would it not be a hoot if the cat sat up and screamed, “Gotcha ya!” ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/115 "2006-01-19T03:30:47Z")
> [@Waverly](#): > > You clearly don’t think much of people who make regular use of inside jokes, and that’s fine, but why the reluctance to admit this is the case? It’s just one of those things that I’ve seen people with certain social difficulties do - they’re eager to develop inside jokes and they repeat them too often. As such, it’s not so much that it’s irritating (though hearing any joke repeated long after it goes stale is potentially annoying) but that it makes me uncomfortable in that awkward way you get when someone does something sort of “off”. Obviously I’m judging people on the basis of really enjoying inside jokes - no question - but it’s not something that makes me angry or that I want to stop people from doing. It’s one of those things that just creates that awkward feeling. I don’t know how to explain it better than that. Obviously it’s a vague notion, since these jokes _were_ funny for the first fifteen thousand times. But at a certain point, when I hear them they just trigger discomfort because they’re no longer funny and they start to feel like someone’s desperate attempt to be a part of the group. > [@](#): > > I don’t think this is giving you a hard time. Your opinion here is like Schrödinger’s cat and I’m just fiddling with the lid on the box. Would it not be a hoot if the cat sat up and screamed, “Gotcha ya!” Only if he clawed that sick fuck Schrödinger’s eyes out. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/116 "2006-01-19T03:34:06Z")
> [@](#): > > I prefer the FSM anyway. Now I have to ask what the FSM is. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/117 "2006-01-19T03:35:57Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > It’s just one of those things that I’ve seen people with certain social difficulties do - they’re eager to develop inside jokes and they repeat them too often. As such, it’s not so much that it’s irritating (though hearing any joke repeated long after it goes stale is potentially annoying) but that it makes me uncomfortable in that awkward way you get when someone does something sort of “off”. Obviously I’m judging people on the basis of really enjoying inside jokes - no question - but it’s not something that makes me angry or that I want to stop people from doing. It’s one of those things that just creates that awkward feeling. I don’t know how to explain it better than that. > > Obviously it’s a vague notion, since these jokes _were_ funny for the first fifteen thousand times. But at a certain point, when I hear them they just trigger discomfort because they’re no longer funny and they start to feel like someone’s desperate attempt to be a part of the group. > > Only if he clawed that sick fuck Schrödinger’s eyes out. As an example, I have a friend that will still use the old joke “Beam me up Scotty, there is no intelligent life down here”. This was funny (for me at least) in the 80’s when it was popular but 20 years later it is a little sad. Kind of like that handful of people still attending Rocky Horror every week or two since 1979. Jim ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/118 "2006-01-19T03:38:02Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Now I have to ask what the FSM is. [Flying Spagetti Monster.](http://www.venganza.org/) I love this on the home page: DOVER SCHOOL BOARD (PENNSYLVANIA) **Struck Through** Jim ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/119 "2006-01-19T05:29:04Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Not quite—the term Mannie uses is _Bog_. Probably a corruption (Loonies? Corrupting the language? Say it ain’t so!) of the Russian _Bozhe_. Actually, “ **Bóg** ” is “God” in Polish; it’s probably very similar in other Slavic languages. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537/120 "2006-01-19T06:24:11Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > :rolleyes: What? You give **Annamika** the rolleyes but you leave me, the originator of the idea, unresponded-to? I feel: 1. Marginalized, 2. Excluded from the community, and 3. Hi **Opal**! Ooh boy, that really did help me justify my pathetic existence! :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > desperately rubbing your vagina on people’s faces I don’t understand what this means, but it is funny. > [@Waverly](#): > > I have a theory about people who allude to something, and then demur on the premise that it would not be nice to voice it out load… Hey! Me too! My theory is that they’re giant cocks. (N.B. “are,” not “have.”) –Cliffy [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-it-with-this-forum-and-og/340537.md?page=7)