# WTF is "liberal media" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 9, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428 "2015-01-09T19:48:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/1 "2015-01-09T19:48:39Z")
Can someone please explain the difference between the “liberal media” and the regular media? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/2 "2015-01-09T19:52:46Z")
Liberal media is basically what Fox News calls all other media in order to justify their propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/3 "2015-01-09T19:53:49Z")
‘Regular media’ [tell the truth 18% of the time](http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-finds-fox-news-tells-truth-18-percent-time/). ‘Liberal media’ lie 18% of the time. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/4 "2015-01-09T19:56:06Z")
Liberal media is any media that uses Fox News as a punchline. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/5 "2015-01-09T19:58:51Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Can someone please explain the difference between the “liberal media” and the regular media? The liberal media IS the regular media. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/6 "2015-01-09T19:59:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘Regular media’ [tell the truth 18% of the time](http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-finds-fox-news-tells-truth-18-percent-time/). ‘Liberal media’ lie 18% of the time. [Fox News Watcher]So they’re basically the same-18%. [/FNW] ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/7 "2015-01-09T20:01:03Z")
Liberal media reports facts, especially uncomfortable-to-narrow-minds facts. Or, simpler, “liberal media is any that reports things that I don’t like”. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/8 "2015-01-09T20:02:55Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Can someone please explain the difference between the “liberal media” and the regular media? The liberal media includes CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN. MSNBC, PBS, NPR, _The New York Times_, _The Washington Post_, _The Boston Globe_, and _The LA Times_. The regular media includes CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN. MSNBC, PBS, NPR, _The New York Times_, _The Washington Post_, _The Boston Globe_, _The LA Times_, and FoxNews. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/9 "2015-01-09T20:04:26Z")
So they are “regular” in the defecatory sense, then. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/10 "2015-01-09T20:04:57Z")
Here’s a start: > [@](#): > > Media bias in the United States occurs when the media in the United States systematically emphasizes one particular point of view in a way that contravenes the standards of professional journalism. Claims of media bias in the United States include claims of liberal bias, conservative bias, mainstream bias, and corporate bias. [Media bias in the United States - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States) As other have pointed out it is a pejorative view that the media is deliberately biased toward a a viewpoint another side doesn’t like, in this case conservative people think the media is biased against them. But if the media is to do its job and attempt to objectively present information, it has to be “liberal.” It has to account for all views, contrasting views, etc., where the viewer decides how they feel about news instead of being told think/act a particular way. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/11 "2015-01-09T20:09:18Z")
I don’t know, but HuffPo is frequently cited, and if they are representative then it’s clickbait all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/12 "2015-01-09T20:40:01Z")
If you can believe that media owned by corporations and sponsored by corporations cannot control either it’s reporters or what they report, then you can believe in the vast “Liberal Media”. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/13 "2015-01-09T20:43:11Z")
Pot. As in the pot (liberal media) who calls the kettle (Fox news) black. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/14 "2015-01-09T20:43:14Z")
There was once a poster around here who claimed that the Sunday \*New York Times \*magazine had liberal recipes. He never explained what a liberal recipe was. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/15 "2015-01-09T20:49:08Z")
Trying to be a little less biased myself, I’ll point out that every medium has its bias. It’s unavoidable. No medium can report all the news. So choices have to be made over what stories are important and relevant. Another factor is that news media, by their nature, report on what’s unusual. To give one currently relevant example, there are hundreds of thousands of police officers in the United States. And most of them are doing their jobs without incident. But if one police officer shoots an unarmed suspect in suspicious circumstances, it’s reported as news. Some people might argue that this shows bias - the media is reporting on the one police officer who shot a suspect while not reporting on the hundreds of thousands of police officers who are doing their job properly. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/16 "2015-01-09T20:50:49Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > There was once a poster around here who claimed that the Sunday \*New York Times \*magazine had liberal recipes. He never explained what a liberal recipe was. Too much sauce - which, as we all know, is a French invention. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/17 "2015-01-09T20:50:50Z")
The real liberal media would be msnbc, alternet, pbs, maybe npr. What I’ve never got are the conservatives who think all media outlets that aren’t conservative are by default liberal. Msnbc is not the same thing as abc. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/18 "2015-01-09T20:56:20Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > There was once a poster around here who claimed that the Sunday \*New York Times \*magazine had liberal recipes. He never explained what a liberal recipe was. A liberal recipe is one that, if you follow the directions, it works. Science-based, in other words. Saying you can make a scratch cake without flour is not “cooking the controversy”.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/19 "2015-01-09T21:02:45Z")
I’m a liberal and a fan of both NPR and PBS, so I’ll admit my bias upfront. I often see complaints that NPR or PBS are liberal. Being a partisan, I don’t see either of those outlets as being particularly liberal, and sometimes I think NPR bends over backward to offer equal time to opposing sides. But, or course, as a liberal, I would say that. So, honest snark-free question for those who do see PBS and NPR as liberal: can you describe where you see the bias there, or provide some examples? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428/20 "2015-01-09T21:11:16Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Pot. > > As in the pot (liberal media) who calls the kettle (Fox news) black. I think you have that backwards. Fox is demonstrably the colour of pots and kettles. (See the site in this thread, or several sites in the GD thread.) So Pot Fox is accusing the kettle of being cast iron, while holding itself out as shiny stainless steel. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-liberal-media/709428.md?page=2)