# WTF is MAGA Night?! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729 "2020-05-30T14:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/21 "2020-05-30T18:48:34Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Do you think he’ll be able to convince the world the US deserves to be taken seriously and can be trusted? Not if there’s a chance every 4 years of another lunatic taking office, and undoing all that the previous administration accomplished (if anything). IOW I wouldn’t blame our (former) allies at all for being pessimistic on that note. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/22 "2020-05-30T19:24:12Z")
This is my guarded opinion, not yet based on facts but simply some observations. I think this whole mess has been astroturfed from the start. Take a populace sick of being cooped up for two months due to a pandemic. Just as the country starts to open up… Add several instances of bald racial atrocities being committed by whites against blacks, including one with a white cop casually killing a black man on camera, aided by several other cops. Everyone watches on the tee vee because they’re all staying home. Let the matter simmer for a few days without taking action against the obviously culpable cops. Throw in what appears to be a completely pointless “press conference” where someone lets slip that there might be evidence to clear the obviously culpable cop. Sit back and watch the protests begin. Stir the pot with sov/cit, white nationalist Oath Keeper types just spoiling for an opportunity to start their new “civil war.” Crank up the heat with inflammatory rhetoric as offered by Bill Barr, who just came out and named “far left extremists” as being the culprits. No mention of the white nationalist types who are itching for their race war – including the one who occupies the Oval Office. Tip the whole mess into chaos as the head White Nationalist in the Oval elbows the Pentagon to get the military ready to crack heads under the Insurrection Act. There’s your Kristallnacht for you. Call me jaded, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn there is a pardon tucked in a desk drawer someplace for Derek Chauvin(ist). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/23 "2020-05-30T19:55:14Z")
I’m fairly confident that Trump and/or Trump’s inner circle \ are simply doing the bidding of Russia. And by Russia, I mean Putin. Putin has been playing a long game of destabilizing the USA from within. He’s manipulated a low functioning moron, and this was not that difficult to do. [Russian documents reveal desire to sow racial discord in the USA](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-documents-reveal-desire-sow-racial-discord-violence-u-s-n1008051?fbclid=IwAR0FI6H2Cjv2mHz9NWDOe8xz5H6RcaUlVKTNGB7K_uZ49ztRrQQ8_g0ZDd4) ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/24 "2020-05-30T19:55:56Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Call me jaded, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn there is a pardon tucked in a desk drawer someplace for Derek Chauvin(ist). The President can olny pardon crimes in violation of federal law. You are giving these people way too much credit for planning and executing an elaborate and well orchistrated conspiracy. The reality is these people couldn’t harmonize a barbarshop quartet. These crimes and violations are occurring on a regular basis but without the daily chaff of other superfluous news for cover, it is now on the forefront. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/25 "2020-05-30T20:02:55Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > The President can olny pardon crimes in violation of federal law. > > You are giving these people way too much credit for planning and executing an elaborate and well orchistrated conspiracy. The reality is these people couldn’t harmonize a barbarshop quartet. These crimes and violations are occurring on a regular basis but without the daily chaff of other superfluous news for cover, it is now on the forefront. > > Stranger You’re right on the pardon thing, of course. And I can certainly allow that TrumpCo are too incompetent to plan/execute a well-orchestrated conspiracy. But there are people who swim around them who certainly could. People from around the country and even from outside the country. A lot like Russian interference in 2016: Trump didn’t orchestrate it, but he sure was happy to have it and use it to his full advantage. I think we could agree that Trump and his cabal could make similar use of this situation, irrespective of how it initially arose, in their usual ham-handed way. It’s just all so convenient… and we’re sure not talking about the pandemic and his shitty response to it anymore, are we? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/26 "2020-05-30T20:09:48Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s just all so convenient… and we’re sure not talking about the pandemic and his shitty response to it anymore, are we? Mission Accomplished. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/27 "2020-05-30T20:33:17Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s just all so convenient… and we’re sure not talking about the pandemic and his shitty response to it anymore, are we? When I imagine talking to myself 3 months from now, I am surprised that when I ask about how the Covid pandemic is going, I am surprised that my slightly older self seems to have forgotten all about it. So, we cured it, I ask? No, it’s just the least of our problems, I answer myself. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/28 "2020-05-30T20:37:03Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > More than anyone else we have the potential for great global leadership. Aha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! > [@](#): > > But we’ve just been stepping on our own dicks for the past four years Ha ha ha! “4 years” Ha ha ha ha ha! Stop! My sides…! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/29 "2020-05-30T22:18:13Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > …possibly because our electorate isn’t up to meeting our ideals. You mean the electorate that voted Hillary Clinton into the office of president and was overruled by the electoral college? You prolly forgot about that, amirite? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/30 "2020-05-30T22:21:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You mean the electorate that voted Hillary Clinton into the office of president and was overruled by the electoral college? You prolly forgot about that, amirite? :rolleyes: Can’t Speak for Red Wiggler but, yes, I assume they mean the electorate the let Donald Trump come within 3 million votes of winning. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/31 "2020-05-30T22:26:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > When I imagine talking to myself 3 months from now, I am surprised that when I ask about how the Covid pandemic is going, I am surprised that my slightly older self seems to have forgotten all about it. So, we cured it, I ask? No, it’s just the least of our problems, I answer myself. I appreciate the wisdom of your words. But they don’t make me feel any better. They make me feel much worse. I’m sure you know this but meant no harm. What you say is true. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/32 "2020-05-30T22:34:23Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > How much have it have they stolen? None; the United States failed. You weren’t greeted as liberators at all. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/33 "2020-05-30T22:40:54Z")
I guess this must be it. **[Trump suggests ‘MAGA’ fans gather, makes military threat](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB14O8dh?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)** > [@](#): > > (Bloomberg) – President Donald Trump encouraged his supporters to rally at the White House, inviting a potentially dangerous mix of protesters after people angry about the death of an unarmed black man in Minnesota police custody skirmished with the Secret Service on Friday. > > He threatened “the unlimited power” of the U.S. military to clamp down on demonstrations, tweeting from Air Force One as he traveled to Cape Canaveral, Florida, for the launch of a SpaceX spacecraft. The military is “ready, willing and able” to assist, Trump said earlier. > > In a series of tweets early on Saturday, Trump also seemed to revel in the potential for violence outside the White House, warning that Friday’s protesters would have been met by “the most vicious dogs” and “most ominous weapons” had they dared to breach the fence around the property. > > He depicted Secret Services agents as eager to battle the demonstrators, and later issued an appeal to his supporters to assemble: “Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???” > > Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser rebuked the president in her own series of tweets, calling him “a scared man. Afraid/alone” and saying she stood with people peacefully protesting the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis this week. > > Those demonstrations were not altogether peaceful, though. The Secret Service said in a statement that it arrested six people and that “multiple” personnel from the agency were injured when protesters assaulted them with “bricks, rocks, bottles, fireworks and other items.” > > Videos from Friday’s demonstration showed protesters chasing journalists from the park and throwing objects at officers wearing riot gear, and Secret Service officers responding with pepper spray. > > Contrary to Trump’s assertion that Bowser “wouldn’t let the D.C. police get involved,” the Secret Service said the city’s police and U.S. Park Police were also on the scene of the protests. > … > > Trump told reporters he had “no idea” if his boosters would assemble on Saturday night at the White House. > “I heard that MAGA wanted to be there – that a lot of MAGA was going to be there,” Trump said as he departed the White House, using the acronym for “Make America Great Again.” > … Film @ 11. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/34 "2020-05-30T22:47:29Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I’ll disagree with a few of my esteemed fellow Dopers and say “yes.” Because of our size and strength, the president of this country has inherent global advantages. Ah, you’re describing bullying. I’m not talking about bullying. > [@](#): > > Many around the world would appreciate a modern and progressive US democracy with an empathetic and intelligent person at its head. That doesn’t mean we don’t think you’d let two children in a trenchcoat fuck up whatever it is that progressive modern government does out of pique a couple of years later. The United States cannot be trusted to act rationally or honestly on the world stage. > [@](#): > > More than anyone else we have the potential for great global leadership. But we’ve just been stepping on our own dicks for the past four years, possibly because our electorate isn’t up to meeting our ideals. I don’t think a country that needs the UN to supervise its elections as badly as yours does is in a position to lead a global Easter egg hunt. It’s weird that you live in a country where its head of state explicitly says he doesn’t want people to vote and no one in government reacts except in order to agree with him but don’t think you’re doomed. Are you a Republican? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/35 "2020-05-30T23:14:35Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > The President can olny pardon crimes in violation of federal law. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > You’re right on the pardon thing, of course. True, but the current charges are fuckall nothing. They’ll plead the murder three down to involuntary manslaughter or something and the guy will never see the inside of a cell. He needs to face federal hate crime charges, but you can bet that’s not going to be happening under Barr. But you have heard Trump’s new gaslit talking points, right? He and his people are and have always been the champions and defenders of black civil rights and peaceful protesters. But Antifa, the radical Left, George Soros and Nancy Pelosi are infiltrating the protests and inciting violence. And a bunch of his supporters on Twitter are all …har har har, once Trump starts to support Floyd the Left will turn against him, great move dear leader …yuck yuck Trump Derangement Syndrome… ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/36 "2020-05-30T23:35:29Z")
Okay, DC Dopers. It’s 7:30PM. Has a host of obese pale people on hoverrounds descended on Lafayette Park yet, waving Confederate flags? Inquiring minds need to know. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/37 "2020-05-30T23:39:08Z")
Are you kidding? They’re in their moms’ basements, sucking one another’s thumbs. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/38 "2020-05-31T01:46:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Yep. He wants more violent clashes. He wants a race war. He wants more burning buildings. > > Why? > > Because if this happens, he might have a chance to win the election or at least have an excuse to eliminate it. > \*\* > He wants a Kristallnacht. \*\* Of course, you can be assured that Trump does not have the first clue what Kristallnacht is, but you can bet your ass that Stephen Miller certainly does. Those “outside agitators”, whoever they may be and wherever they may come from, seem to be heading us in this direction. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/39 "2020-05-31T02:41:05Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-maga-night/854729/40 "2020-05-31T02:56:26Z")
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