# WTF is Obamagate?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616 "2020-05-12T01:41:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
**Page:** 9

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/162 "2020-05-20T15:03:22Z")

</div>

> [@crywalt](#):
>
> Also the referent for “they” shifts between paragraphs. The first one is the other poster, the second one is “Republicans in general” or perhaps “right-wing nutjobs” or whatever.
> 
> Some people are still very cranky about the use of the singular they. It’s a real shame.

They just don’t seem to understand.  
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/163 "2020-05-20T21:58:03Z")

</div>

> [@crywalt](#):
>
> Also the referent for “they” shifts between paragraphs. The first one is the other poster, the second one is “Republicans in general” or perhaps “right-wing nutjobs” or whatever.
> 
> Some people are still very cranky about the use of the singular they. It’s a real shame.

It’s particularly amusing when, in their own post, they make the point “you (plural)”, so it’s clear they understand the singular/plural problems.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TemporalFix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c6cbf5/32.png) [@TemporalFix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TemporalFix)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/164 "2020-05-28T20:03:00Z")

</div>

It’s been more than a week since I heard anything about Obamagate. Is Obamagate still there, or is it no more, now that we have Twittergate?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/165 "2020-05-28T20:14:16Z")

</div>

> [@TemporalFix](#):
>
> It’s been more than a week since I heard anything about Obamagate. Is Obamagate still there, or is it no more, now that we have Twittergate?

The latest info I received from a friend who is all-in on “The greatest political crime in history!” sent me the latest Obamagate information she had, which was a youtube video of a sub-titled Ukrainian press conference.

:rolleyes:

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/166 "2020-05-28T20:26:20Z")

</div>

Reporter John Heilemann asked Individual 1 on Twitter to explain what Obamagate was, and Ted Cruz decided to stick his nose in:  
“I thought that was a reporter’s job?”  
and Heilemann replied:  
“Sorry, I’m still busy reporting out Trump’s accusation that your father was involved in the killing of JFK.”

> **[Ted Cruz's Attempt To Explain Journalism To Reporter Backfires Spectacularly](https://www.huffpost.com/archive/au/entry/ted-cruz-trump-obamagate_au_5ecf8324c5b60226ae596709)**
>
> Texas senator's attempt to help spread Trump's favourite conspiracy theory quickly falls apart.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/167 "2020-05-28T20:58:23Z")

</div>

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> Reporter John Heilemann asked Individual 1 on Twitter to explain what Obamagate was, and Ted Cruz decided to stick his nose in:  
> “I thought that was a reporter’s job?”  
> and Heilemann replied:  
> “Sorry, I’m still busy reporting out Trump’s accusation that your father was involved in the killing of JFK.”  
> [Ted Cruz's Attempt To Explain Journalism To Reporter Backfires Spectacularly | HuffPost Politics](https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/ted-cruz-trump-obamagate_au_5ecf8324c5b60226ae596709)

😃

Love it!

Sit down and shut up, Ted!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![crywalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crywalt/32/3224_2.png) [@crywalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crywalt)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/168 "2020-05-28T22:36:30Z")

</div>

Dan Bongino is still flogging it on Twitter.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/169 "2020-05-29T19:07:58Z")

</div>

> [@GIGObuster](#):
>
> This is rich considering [how corrupt the investigations of any alleged malfeasance from Obama or Biden made by Trump and henchmen has been.](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29445236/marie-yovanovitch-ukraine-ambassador-testify-congress-trump/)
> 
> The AP also did check, and on the whole, yes it is another nothing burger that the republicans will use to play many of their followers like fiddles.
> 
> [AP FACT CHECK: Trump, GOP falsehoods on Flynn, Biden, virus | AP News](https://apnews.com/eb19b89d489278bcd6db9bf5fdfc493a)
> 
> And then the AP also had to check what Trump did toss also there about testing in the USA, of course a big lie and it seems that many followers of Trump do not care that lives are on the line.

The AP is clearly not neutral in presenting Strzok and Page this way while leaving out the 302 rewriting/ ginning up [long after](https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/497064-why-dismiss-the-flynn-case-because-the-fbi-cant-prove-it) the interview at which Page was not even present.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/170 "2020-05-31T00:54:05Z")

</div>

> [@RTFirefly](#):
>
> Then cite one. And the link to Obama is…?
> 
> Surely you can explain that for us. (After providing a better source for what did or didn’t happen in Minneapolis schools. Always helpful to know _what it is_ that’s being linked to Obama.) Given that the story was shopped around to all the national news orgs, and they all concluded that there wasn’t enough there for them to run a story, then if some wingnut source that holds facts in low regard comes through and reports it, yep, that’s plenty of reason to doubt the story.

Google it if you like, I only read it on a local to there blogger’s site.

If you had read the entire cite in the post to which I referred, you would know.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/171 "2020-06-05T14:41:48Z")

</div>

I heard [this](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/white-house-fence-barricade/index.html) was Obamagate.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/172 "2020-06-05T18:39:13Z")

</div>

> [@sps49sd](#):
>
> The AP is clearly not neutral in presenting Strzok and Page this way while leaving out the 302 rewriting/ ginning up [long after](https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/497064-why-dismiss-the-flynn-case-because-the-fbi-cant-prove-it) the interview at which Page was not even present.

Sorry, an opinion piece by Andrew C. McCarthy is never evidence.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616/173 "2020-06-05T18:41:04Z")

</div>

> [@sps49sd](#):
>
> Google it if you like, I only read it on a local to there blogger’s site.

[That’s not how it works.  
That’s not how any of this works.](https://media1.tenor.com/images/471e6c2ca597921c3f26ea7713555feb/tenor.gif?itemid=11299432)

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-obamagate/853616.md?page=8)
