# WTF is wrong with you, conservative America?!?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 19, 2011, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896 "2011-02-19T08:16:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/401 "2011-02-27T04:52:09Z")
> [@Assi](#):
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> Too bad there were not many examples of debate on the post besides all this crap. It was mostly a bunch of chimps throwing their own shit at each other.
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> Nice post, UncaThomas. I was just pointing out the absurdity.
Oh you want to debate? Well suit up shitheel. Let’s see your game face.
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### Author:  [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/402 "2011-02-27T04:56:15Z")
1. Lobohan is a dolt who can rarely utter a post without calling his adversary stupid or a moron.
2. Assi fucked up a couple times in his grammar and spelling.
3. Frank seized upon this not only to belittle Assi’s post but apparently to posit also that Assi is of the belief that Obama has only made two mistakes while president.
4. Assi responds with quasi-humorous post with intentional misspellings.
5. Lobodolt quotes that post while making fun of Assi once again.
6. SA bwahahaha’s.
7. Crickets
8. SA asks why crickets?
9. Lobodolt makes lame excuse pretending to have been responding to a different post than the one he quoted/cited in that response.
10. SA says ‘sorry, no dice’.
11. Lacking adequate defense, Lobodolt predictablly calls SA stupid.
12. Contraction of ‘we are’ takes an apostrophe. 😃
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/403 "2011-02-27T04:58:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> 1. Assi responds with quasi-humorous post with intentional misspellings.
Whoosh!!
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/404 "2011-02-27T05:17:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> 1. Lobohan is a dolt who can rarely utter a post without calling his adversary stupid or a moron.
> 2. Assi fucked up a couple times in his grammar and spelling.
> 3. Frank seized upon this not only to belittle Assi’s post but apparently to posit also that Assi is of the belief that Obama has only made two mistakes while president.
> 4. Assi responds with quasi-humorous post with intentional misspellings.
> 5. Lobodolt quotes that post while making fun of Assi once again.
> 6. SA bwahahaha’s.
> 7. Crickets
> 8. SA asks why crickets?
> 9. Lobodolt makes lame excuse pretending to have been responding to a different post than the one he quoted/cited in that response.
> 10. SA says ‘sorry, no dice’.
> 11. Lacking adequate defense, Lobodolt predictablly calls SA stupid.
> 12. Contraction of ‘we are’ takes an apostrophe. 😃
Are you really such a coward that you refuse to face reality when spelled out? Really?
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### Author:  [@UncaThomas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncaThomas)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/405 "2011-02-27T05:18:58Z")
> [@](#):
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> We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.
He obviously never visited this place.
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### Author:  [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/406 "2011-02-27T05:58:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Since self-interest is apparently the only thing that conservatives like you understand.
And yet the example I used was done by actual liberals. Did they do it for the benefit of anyone but themselves?
People in power want to stay in power and don’t like it when they lose it or are losing it. They’ll make deals with the devil or do what they think it takes to keep it or gain it. It doesn’t matter if they are liberal or conservative. Yeah, keep your ideals about how your way is better and it is the other side that has something wrong with them. It’s a lie, but you don’t care.
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### Author:  [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/407 "2011-02-27T07:54:50Z")
> [@Uzi](#):
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> And yet the example I used was done by actual liberals. Did they do it for the benefit of anyone but themselves?
> People in power want to stay in power and don’t like it when they lose it or are losing it. They’ll make deals with the devil or do what they think it takes to keep it or gain it. It doesn’t matter if they are liberal or conservative. Yeah, keep your ideals about how your way is better and it is the other side that has something wrong with them. It’s a lie, but you don’t care.
Just to clarify things a bit: The **L** iberal Party of Canada has nothing to do with the reference to “liberal” in the US. Any more than a reference to conservatives in the US would in some way relate to Harper and his **C** onservative Party.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/408 "2011-02-27T11:06:10Z")
> [@Assi](#):
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> What does this have to do with grammar or spelling?
You stated that you like Bobby Jindal. You can’t spell his name, you’re not certain that he’s old enough, you can’t spell the name of the state he’s governor of. All in one sentence. Clearly you are arguing from a position of knowledge.
Then you throw in the birth certificate nonsense (which explains **Starving Artist** oozing to your defense–he never met a birther he didn’t like), and lastly, people who don’t put the period of sentences that are inside parentheses _inside the fucking parentheses_ get on my last nerve.
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### Author:  [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/409 "2011-02-27T12:27:57Z")
> [@Frank](#):
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> You stated that you like Bobby Jindal. You can’t spell his name, you’re not certain that he’s old enough, you can’t spell the name of the state he’s governor of. All in one sentence. Clearly you are arguing from a position of knowledge.
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> Then you throw in the birth certificate nonsense (which explains **Starving Artist** oozing to your defense–he never met a birther he didn’t like), and lastly, people who don’t put the period of sentences that are inside parentheses _inside the fucking parentheses_ get on my last nerve.
First of all, I came to no one’s defense; I merely pointed to your intellectually dishonest tactic of trying to discredit someone’s argument because he misspelled a couple of words.
Secondly, I’d like to see a cite where I’ve ever expressed any opinion one way or another in support of birthers. And the thread where, in response to birther issues raised by **CoT** I asked a few questions based on information gleaned from the MSM, doesn’t count because even there I never said anything that could remotely be construed as favoritism toward birthers. In fact I stated out loud and bluntly that I’ve never been a birther, am not a birther, and will never be a birther. And yet here you are lying through your teeth, claiming I never met a birther I didn’t like.
And thirdly, in that thread you proudly stated that you had always regarded me as liar (an accusation that you’d never be able to prove, btw, unless you can point to a single lie I’ve told anywhere in my 10,000+ posts), and yet here you are demonstrably lying through your own teeth.
Can you say “Hoist on my own petard?”
Yeah, I thought that you could.
You’re a lying sack of shit **Frank**. To echo Christopher Hitchens’ assessment of Jerry Falwell, if someone were to knock all the shit out of you, you could be buried in a matchbox.
Putz!
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### Author:  [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/410 "2011-02-27T14:07:18Z")
> [@UncaThomas](#):
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> How many people would be in favor of a huge corporation making large contributions to influence representatives who would then use their legislative power to enrich that corporation in later negotiations with the government?
> When is buying a legislator acceptable?
Ohh, Ohh, ohh, I wanna try the answer to that!
How about when it is a **union** making “… making large contributions to influence representatives who would then use their legislative power to enrich that corporation in later negotiations with the government?”
Is that when buying a legislator is acceptable?
Did I get it right?
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/411 "2011-02-27T15:50:01Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> … specious cite demands …
> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> … I’d like to see a cite …
Can you say “Hoist on my own petard?”
CMC fnord!
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### Author:  [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/412 "2011-02-27T16:05:19Z")
> [@emacknight](#):
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> Just to clarify things a bit: The **L** iberal Party of Canada has nothing to do with the reference to “liberal” in the US.
And would be considered to be to the ‘left’ of the Democratic party on the political spectrum.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/413 "2011-02-27T20:49:32Z")
> [@Uzi](#):
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> And yet the example I used was done by actual liberals. Did they do it for the benefit of anyone but themselves?
> People in power want to stay in power and don’t like it when they lose it or are losing it. They’ll make deals with the devil or do what they think it takes to keep it or gain it. It doesn’t matter if they are liberal or conservative. Yeah, keep your ideals about how your way is better and it is the other side that has something wrong with them. It’s a lie, but you don’t care.
I don’t support the liberal party of Canada either. The move they did back then was disgusting. The fact you think it’s just “business as usual”, makes you disgusting too.
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### Author:  [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/414 "2011-02-27T20:55:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I don’t support the liberal party of Canada either.
You’re starting to slip into NDP crackpot territory then which pretty much means your batshit insane and reality is only something that marginally concerns you. No point in continuing this conversation then.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/415 "2011-02-27T21:14:03Z")
> [@Uzi](#):
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> You’re starting to slip into NDP crackpot territory then which pretty much means your batshit insane and reality is only something that marginally concerns you. No point in continuing this conversation then.
Lot’s of “Batshit insane” folks in Canada then. Sorry that thought frightens you off.
Enjoy your lack of ethics.
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### Author:  [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/416 "2011-02-27T21:46:18Z")
> [@Uzi](#):
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> And would be considered to be to the ‘left’ of the Democratic party on the political spectrum.
Harper is also considered ‘left’ of the Democratic Party, just to keep things in perspective. Point being that your references to what the Martin government did aren’t relevent to the discussion.
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### Author:  [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/417 "2011-02-27T21:50:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And thirdly, in that thread you proudly stated that you had always regarded me as liar (an accusation that you’d never be able to prove, btw, unless you can point to a single lie I’ve told anywhere in my 10,000+ posts), and yet here you are demonstrably lying through your own teeth.
You lied in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580311)thread that you started, and [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=559440) one too. What’s worse is that you’ll even pass off other people’s lies as your own.
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### Author:  [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/418 "2011-02-27T22:52:32Z")
> [@emacknight](#):
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> Harper is also considered ‘left’ of the Democratic Party, just to keep things in perspective. Point being that your references to what the Martin government did aren’t relevent to the discussion.
Completely relevant for a number of reasons, 1. The term ‘real’ liberals was brought up; and 2. Conservatives are the corrupt ones. Martin proves that ‘real’ liberals are as corrupt as anyone else.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/419 "2011-02-27T22:55:20Z")
Boy, you got us there! Liberals are people, ain’t no getting around that one! Not an angel in the bunch, nosir!
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-is-wrong-with-you-conservative-america/571896/420 "2011-02-27T23:48:48Z")
> [@Uzi](#):
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> Completely relevant for a number of reasons, 1. The term ‘real’ liberals was brought up; and 2. Conservatives are the corrupt ones. Martin proves that ‘real’ liberals are as corrupt as anyone else.
While you seem to prove that conservatives believe that if you’re not corrupt (and pay off politicians for their votes) then you are stupid, because “everyone does it”.
(And what happened to Martin’s government at the next election? It seems that it did not pay off. Seems the voters do not like it when you convince an opposition member to switch sides. You could learn a lesson here.)
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