# WTF moments from otherwise innocuous TV/movies

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 18, 2011, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628 "2011-12-18T07:48:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/21 "2011-12-20T02:25:36Z")

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**Law and Order**

D.A. Arthur Branch fires A.D.A Serena Southerlyn

“Is this because I’m a Lesbian?”

😕HUH?😕

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/22 "2011-12-20T08:29:02Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> **Law and Order**
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> D.A. Arthur Branch fires A.D.A Serena Southerlyn
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> “Is this because I’m a Lesbian?”

As stupid as that one was, if you go back and watch some of Serena’s episodes, there are hints all over the place that she’s a lesbian.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/23 "2011-12-20T10:29:10Z")

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In Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland… the scene where the Mad Hatter spontaneously break-dances is so WTF that it immediately ruins the movie.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/24 "2011-12-20T13:18:02Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> In Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland… the scene where the Mad Hatter spontaneously break-dances is so WTF that it immediately ruins the movie.

That was definitely a jaw-droppingly stupid and out of place part of the movie that did indeed almost ruin it for me. And it was _so_ out there when it came that I have to admit it was a WTF moment.

But still, I could tell there was going to be something like that at the end due to the incessant references to it. I just didn’t think it would be so cheesy!

ETA: and by jaw-dropping, I mean literally, my jaw dropped when it happened.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/25 "2011-12-20T14:06:47Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> In Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland… the scene where the Mad Hatter spontaneously break-dances is so WTF that it immediately ruins the movie.

> [@Ludovic](#):
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> That was definitely a jaw-droppingly stupid and out of place part of the movie that did indeed almost ruin it for me. And it was _so_ out there when it came that I have to admit it was a WTF moment.
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> But still, I could tell there was going to be something like that at the end due to the incessant references to it. I just didn’t think it would be so cheesy!
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> ETA: and by jaw-dropping, I mean literally, my jaw dropped when it happened.

I wish I had seen it with you guys. The audience I saw it with cheered that scene. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prelude_to_Fascination)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/26 "2011-12-20T14:44:29Z")

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_A Mighty Wind_, directed by Christopher Guest, is a great movie with fantastic performances from his troupe (many from _This is Spinal Tap, Waiting for Guffman_, and _Best in Show_). I really like the film, until the very end, when The Folksmen are playing a concert in a casino on, I believe, a Native American reservation. Harry Shearer plays Mark Shubb, the bassist for The Folksmen, but at the casino, he’s dressed in women’s clothes and a blonde wig.

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> …and I wanted to spend all of it as a woman. I came to a realization that I was - and am - a blonde, female folk singer trapped in the body of a bald, male folk singer and I had to LET ME OUT or I WOULD DIE.

I mean, where in the hell did that come from?! It’s so far out in left field that this part takes me out of the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/27 "2011-12-20T14:47:46Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> As stupid as that one was, if you go back and watch some of Serena’s episodes, there are hints all over the place that she’s a lesbian.

I must disagree. I think people see those only because of the later episode. You could see almost anything in that light.

From Law and Order SVU (I know, finding oddness here is about as hard as finding a needle in a fifty-foot stack of needles):

One episode featured a freakish plot by a crazy French woman who taught at Columbia and thought that kidnapping her own child (she did not have custody, being fruiter than apple pie) and whisking him away to China was a wise plan. After having a total mental breakdown, taking a cop, DA, her ex-husband and the medical examiner… the latter of whom she shot and nearly killed. After all of this, in the last ninety seconds of airtime, they suddenly switch and say it was the father who kidnapped his son (which resulted in his death)… to prevent his ex-wife from taking the boy.

My only thought was that (a) the Richest White Guy syndrome strikes again, and (b) he had no motive. Hell, if he wanted to, he could simply have sent his kid to another school, or moved with his son. And if he had proof she was trying to grab him and leave the country (she most definitely was) he could have gone to the courts, or arranged things so that she could never get him alone. This “plot twist” made no sense, even by the loose standards of SVU.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/28 "2011-12-20T15:10:46Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> I must disagree. I think people see those only because of the later episode. You could see almost anything in that light.

They’re not smack you in the face hints by any means, but she absolutely flies off the handle during a few gay rights episodes. And there was all the flirty banter with the medial examiner.

It’s not _completely_ out of left field is what I’m saying. But it’s still a big WTF.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/29 "2011-12-20T15:43:35Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> As stupid as that one was, if you go back and watch some of Serena’s episodes, there are hints all over the place that she’s a lesbian.

There’s at least one rather direct reference to her being straight. McCoy is prosecuting someone who had sex underage and Serena talks about making out with a guy when she was technically too young, and the guy didn’t grow up to be a sex offender. He’s a state Senator in Albany, or something.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/30 "2011-12-20T15:49:48Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> You can still be virginal if you masturbate.  
> …

Or if you give hand jobs

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/31 "2011-12-20T16:04:22Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Or if you give hand jobs

Well, if we’re defining losing your virginity as sexual activity with someone else (which we as a culture generally do – no one thinks back to when they first started masturbating and classifies that as a loss of virginity experience), I don’t think of giving hand jobs as all that virginal. People talk about losing their technical virginity after having done oral sex or hand jobs, after all.

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/32 "2011-12-20T17:28:17Z")

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Not that the movie was all that innocuous otherwise, but the “shoot him again his soul is still dancing” breakdance scene in **Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans** was totally WTF.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/33 "2011-12-20T17:42:47Z")

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At the end of the King’s Speech, they’re all on the balcony, and the little Princess Margaret is supposed to be doing a royal wave but it looks exactly like wanking hand movements. Since that little girl is the evil child from Outnumbered, it wouldn’t surprise me if it were deliberate.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> There’s at least one rather direct reference to her being straight. McCoy is prosecuting someone who had sex underage and Serena talks about making out with a guy when she was technically too young, and the guy didn’t grow up to be a sex offender. He’s a state Senator in Albany, or something.

That doesn’t say she’s straight, just that she had sex wit men when she was younger. This is extremely common among lesbians.

That Godfather sex scene is hilariously awful. 😃

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/34 "2011-12-20T18:20:19Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> That doesn’t say she’s straight, just that she had sex wit men when she was younger. This is extremely common among lesbians.

She didn’t even admit to straight sex, just that they made out.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/35 "2011-12-20T18:31:31Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> She didn’t even admit to straight sex, just that they made out.

I don’t remember the exact phrase that was used, it may have been more than just “making out”. And while that may be common among lesbians in their youth, I think it’s probably more common among straight women, and is a more blatant reference to Serena’s sexuality than anything else leading up to her announcement in her final scene.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/36 "2011-12-20T18:34:50Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I don’t remember the exact phrase that was used, it may have been more than just “making out”. And while that may be common among lesbians in their youth, I think it’s probably more common among straight women, and is a more blatant reference to Serena’s sexuality than anything else leading up to her announcement in her final scene.

Nah, it really doesn’t tell you anything. Especially if it’s just making out - it’d be really, really rare to find a lesbian who’s never even made out with a man, so it’d be equally as common.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/37 "2011-12-20T18:53:15Z")

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The dream sequence from **Ghostbusters** in which Dan Aykroyd receives a BJ from a ghost. Totally disrupts the entire tone of the movie.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/38 "2011-12-20T19:22:57Z")

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In the movie **Under Siege** , where after the bad guys have taken over and Seagal is sneaking around, hired stripper Erika Eleniak wakes up from being drugged, then pops out of a cake and takes her top off without even looking around first.  
I debated even posting this, since it was the best scene in the movie.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/39 "2011-12-20T19:35:12Z")

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In _Attack of the Clones_, instead of finishing him off and letting his (former) friend die with some dignity, or at least putting him out of his misery, Obi-wan just leaves Anakin to burn to death. At the very least he could have waited for him to die before taking off, lest that come back to bite him in the ass, somehow.

Also, when they must stop for repairs on Tatooine in _Phantom Menace_, why the fuck does Jar-Jar need to go into town with them? Obi-wan doesn’t go. The Queen’s guards don’t go. Padme only get to go because she makes Qui-Gon take her(self).

Similarly, during the battle on Naboo, why the fuck do they take Anakin, **into battle** , with them? Shouldn’t they leave the little kid back on the ship or something?

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-moments-from-otherwise-innocuous-tv-movies/606628/40 "2011-12-20T19:37:43Z")

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That scene in Dexter when Dexter and Lumen (Julia Stiles’ character) are in the basement dismembering the guy who attacked her and Deb is right behind the plastic - _thisclose_ to catching them - and Deb yells for them to just leave. Deb, a police detective, is _thisclose_ to catching a serial killer and she just lets her go? I was all, “Oh HELL no.”

(my memory is fuzzy, please correct any factual errors.)

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