# WTF? Otto was just banned by Ed.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/1 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Ed Zotti]

[QUOTE=Otto]  
And if a member of the board staff is rude to a guest outside the Pit? Will they be summarily fired and banned?  
[/QUOTE]  
The above constitutes snark in my book, Otto. Goodbye.  
[/QUOTE]

[Linky](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10177814)

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/2 "2008-09-10T18:46:31Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Tan](#):
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> [Linky](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10177814)

Well, you figure they had to ban someone to prove that they were serious.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/3 "2008-09-10T18:47:37Z")

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Wow. That is ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/4 "2008-09-10T18:49:18Z")

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That was…bizarre. And shitty.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/5 "2008-09-10T18:49:24Z")

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I just noticed when I checked another thread and came to both ATMB and the Pit to learn what I could learn.

Whoa. Seems harsh. I have stayed the frak away from most threads dealing with Board management issues, so have no idea if \*\*Otto \*\*had displayed behavior that could be construed as “jerky” before that - but whoa…

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/6 "2008-09-10T18:53:40Z")

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Totally fucking childish and shitty.

How was that question whining? There was no mention of snarkiness being a bannable offense.

Ed, you fucking suck drippy sacks of dog shit!

Cock

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/7 "2008-09-10T18:53:26Z")

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Insanely stupid and out of line banning.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/8 "2008-09-10T18:54:07Z")

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Well, hopefully someone will come to their senses soon and correct what was clealy a bad, unjust, and ill-considered decision.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/9 "2008-09-10T18:55:39Z")

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I don’t always agree with **Otto** but that’s what makes this place entertaining; I want to see other points of view (and then pit them mercilessly of course, BWAHAAHHAHA). Here’s hoping they have a change of heart about it because his comment was really on the low end of the snarky range. The posters who’ve been here a long time clearly care about the board and make their comments out of a genuine desire to see it improved IMO. It seems reasonable to confine this type of discussion to the appropriate forums but it disheartens me to see it being quashed altogether.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/10 "2008-09-10T18:56:17Z")

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> [@Binarydrone](#):
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> Well, you figure they had to ban someone to prove that they were serious.

What’s the line: “nothing focuses the attention of the masses like a public hanging…”  
or something like that…

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/11 "2008-09-10T19:02:26Z")

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Totally fucking childish and shitty.

How was that question whining?

Ed, you fucking suck drippy sacks of dog shit!

Cock

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/12 "2008-09-10T19:03:36Z")

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Wow. I understand the annoyance Ed/Admins/TPTB have at all the bitching that’s been going on all over the boards (it’s been irritating me, too!), but talk about an over-reaction! I don’t think this is a good policy, but some people do need to stop whining about every last thing that isn’t exactly the way they want it!

The mood on these boards is really, really ugly lately - I’m surprised new people are signing up, given as how posters and mods are at each other’s throats, and bannings can come without warning based purely on one interpretation of a post. It just isn’t pleasant to come here at the moment. I’m sorry **Otto** had to be used as an example that way. I hope everyone just calms down, because these are not the boards I’ve come to love over the years!

☹

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/13 "2008-09-10T19:08:22Z")

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Yak-cock bullshit. There was no excuse for that.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/14 "2008-09-10T19:12:28Z")

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**Otto** has contributed a lot to this board over the years. He’s a fine, thoughtful poster, and it’s damn foolish to kick him out for “snark”. This decision harms the Board.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/15 "2008-09-10T19:14:47Z")

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For those of you who are not aware, I’ll chime in that Otto was a problematic poster at best. He had received a ‘final warning’ in the past, had a lot of warnings under his belt, and the moderation staff had discussed his banning previously (though, obviously, never acted).

Whether or not that justifies the banning is up to the individual observer, but I felt some context might be helpful.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/16 "2008-09-10T19:14:52Z")

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I don’t complain about the administration, at least not very often. I maybe have complained about the timeouts once or twice, and about **Tubadiva** occasionally, but not very often because she helped me with my name change.

That being said, I think the banning was the act of a temper tantrum and rather childish. I thought the mods were vetted on here to make sure they weren’t allowed to make childish bannings?

Best to keep one’s mouth shut these days I guess.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/17 "2008-09-10T19:15:57Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> For those of you who are not aware, I’ll chime in that Otto was a problematic poster at best. He had received a ‘final warning’ in the past, had a lot of warnings under his belt, and the moderation staff had discussed his banning previously (though, obviously, never acted).
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> Whether or not that justifies the banning is up to the individual observer, but I felt some context might be helpful.

Where can we find the final warning?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/18 "2008-09-10T19:17:40Z")

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Absolutely inexcusable bullshit.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/19 "2008-09-10T19:18:01Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I thought the mods were vetted on here to make sure they weren’t allowed to make childish bannings?

Did you notice who did the actual banning, **mika**? It was **Ed Zotti** himself. He’s the guy who _hires_ the moderators.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/20 "2008-09-10T19:18:46Z")

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This is really upsetting to me. I thought more of the SDMB administration than this.

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