# WTF? Otto was just banned by Ed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/361 "2008-09-11T00:27:03Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > And **Guin** you bitching about ‘haven’t you worked in customer service!!!’ - uh, aren’t you the person who quit K-mart because the customers were such jerks? No, I did not quit because the customers were jerks. I quit because I hated the job in general. And if anything, I quit because my bosses were the jerks, not the customers. (Deliberately short-staffing on our busiest days, and when the customers complained, what could I say, since in this instance, I actually agreed with them?) > [@](#): > > Wasn’t there ever a time that you wished you could have vaporized a jerky customer in a second? Of course. However, I never have, and second, if I DID, I’d be out on my ass. Here, it seems, it’s encouraged. (Or how else has **Tuba** kept her job all these years?) But you keep telling yourself what you like, **alice** , since you will anyways. **mutantmoose** , who the hell are you, and how the hell do you know so much about this place? You’ve been here what, two months? Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/362 "2008-09-11T00:28:06Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Again, rule or no rule, don’t act like a shithead to the owner of the site when he’s having a bad day. . Don’t you think he should at least wear his “I’m having a shitty day!” badge? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/363 "2008-09-11T00:28:20Z")
> [@myskepticsight](#): > > What are you talking about? On the last page I just saw a post by you that didn’t seem to really be in support or opposition to the ban. Now you’re talking about voting against same sex marriage or something? I changed my mind about the ban. I support it now. I love change. The SSM thing was years ago and just referenced how I tried to play nice. The measure was guaranteed to pass, but I thought I’d offer an olive branch all the same. Not germaine, I suppose, but there it is. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/364 "2008-09-11T00:30:39Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Fuck this whole **Ed** business, i’ve got a serious question to ask; > > Is that a single unicorn for the entire board, or one each? It’s one hamster for the entire board. Unicorns, being fictional, are a dime a dozen. One for everyone who’s a virgin! ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/365 "2008-09-11T00:33:07Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > You know, I have no interest, whatsoever, in remodling old houses. Zip. Nada. Zilch. > > And I think I’ll go buy Ed’s book just becuse people here are acting so prickish to him. > > Frankly if this were my site I’ve had shut the bitch down by now. > > And if anyone wants to accuse me of sucking mod ass, they can eat the hot shit fresh as it’s coming out of my asshole. Wow, you sure showed everyone. ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/366 "2008-09-11T00:35:33Z")
> [@](#): > > mutantmoose, who the hell are you, and how the hell do you know so much about this place? You’ve been here what, two months? Hmmm… I was reading the board for a while before I opened an account plus I learn fast. Plus it doesn’t take much prior knowledge to recognise a dumb question when I see one (as with Ottos). ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/367 "2008-09-11T00:35:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **mutantmoose** , who the hell are you, and how the hell do you know so much about this place? You’ve been here what, two months? Hmmm… Uh oh, **Guin** has picked another new poster she doesn’t like. Expect a poorly thought out pitting soon. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/368 "2008-09-11T00:37:21Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Wow, you sure showed everyone. Whatever. I really don’t think I can imagine any other place where the ‘customers’ can treat the owner & staff so horribly without getting their asses booted. ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/369 "2008-09-11T00:38:08Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > You know, I have no interest, whatsoever, in remodling old houses. Zip. Nada. Zilch. > > And I think I’ll go buy Ed’s book just becuse people here are acting so prickish to him. > > Frankly if this were my site I’ve had shut the bitch down by now. > > And if anyone wants to accuse me of sucking mod ass, they can eat the hot shit fresh as it’s coming out of my asshole. But you know what? This is not Ed’s site. Scroll to the bottom - see owned by Creative Loafing, which is NOT a wholly Ed Zotti owned business. If I ever treated customer’s of my company in this fashion I would be out on my ass. Frankly, the mods let too much shit get through. There are people here who are obviously just trying to stir shit up, but they are given plenty of rope to hang themselves with. From all accounts Otto had been getting rope for some time, but because Ed is having some sort of mood swing today Otto got the boot for a comment that was not particularly obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/370 "2008-09-11T00:40:45Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > You know, I have no interest, whatsoever, in remodling old houses. Zip. Nada. Zilch. > > And I think I’ll go buy Ed’s book just becuse people here are acting so prickish to him. > > Frankly if this were my site I’ve had shut the bitch down by now. > > And if anyone wants to accuse me of sucking mod ass, they can eat the hot shit fresh as it’s coming out of my asshole. This wouldn’t have been your board. Specifically, a board that was under moderation that involved instituting random rules and banning people for asking snarky questions about said rules would not have become the Dope we know/knew and love/loved. It is indeed true that the guy with the biggest stick generally wins. However, it’s also true that he tends to win because people, given the choice, tend not to hang around people with big sticks and a hankering to use them, and the big-stick people need to play with themselves. (And their big sticks). ---
**Author:** ![Frustrated\_Wonderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a4c791/32.png) [@Frustrated\_Wonderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frustrated_Wonderer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/371 "2008-09-11T00:41:08Z")
I wonder what Cecil has to say about all this non-sense and attention whoring. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/372 "2008-09-11T00:41:58Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Uh oh, **Guin** has picked another new poster she doesn’t like. > > Expect a poorly thought out pitting soon. Kiss my posts-to-much-me-too!-agoraphobic ass. Well, if can pry your lips off of **Ed** ’s long enough, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/373 "2008-09-11T00:42:49Z")
> [@robertliguori](#): > > the big-stick people need to play with themselves. (And their big sticks). I gotta tell you, that’s making me hot. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/374 "2008-09-11T00:43:50Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Kiss my posts-to-much-me-too!-agoraphobic ass. Well, if can pry your lips off of **Ed** ’s long enough, that is. Like I said - hot shit as it exits my asshole. **ENJOY!!** ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/375 "2008-09-11T00:44:41Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Like I said - hot shit as it exits my asshole. **ENJOY!!** Apparently, it’s coming out of your mouth, too. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/376 "2008-09-11T00:46:04Z")
> [@howye](#): > > But you know what? > > This is not Ed’s site. Scroll to the bottom - see owned by Creative Loafing, which is NOT a wholly Ed Zotti owned business. If I ever treated customer’s of my company in this fashion I would be out on my ass. Frankly, the mods let too much shit get through. There are people here who are obviously just trying to stir shit up, but they are given plenty of rope to hang themselves with. From all accounts Otto had been getting rope for some time, but because Ed is having some sort of mood swing today Otto got the boot for a comment that was not particularly obnoxious. Meh. **Otto** was acting like a prick. Was his one comment, in isolation bad enough to be banned? Probably not. However, given his history he had to know he was pushing his luck. And I _like_ the guy! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/377 "2008-09-11T00:46:07Z")
**Otto** could be a bitch, but come on. Are we all supposed to curtsey to our CL overlords? Well, no matter what, I’m sure **Otto** would be happy to know that he’s getting something like a post every 30 seconds to this thread. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/378 "2008-09-11T00:46:43Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Fuck it. The more I think of **Otto** ’s comment to me the more I get pissed. Chalk me up as 100% supportive of the ban. I understand being pissed at Otto. I think most of the people in this thread have crossed swords with Otto. I’ve had people say things to me that were at least that bad and I’ve said things to other Dopers that I arguably should have been banned for, but Otto wasn’t banned for what he said to you or to anybody else in this thread but an arbitrary headchopping for something that never has in the past been a headchopping offense. It’s like the guy on that Holocaust Message Board said: > [@](#): > > First they banned the trolls, but I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a troll. > > Then they banned the snarkers, but I didn’t speak up because- well, they were snarkers. > > \*\*ETA: \*\* _Actually I just did a search thread and it turns out they banned the spammers come to think of it… or the socks…_ > > _ **ETA2: Okay, just checked again- first they banned the spammers, then the socks, THEN the trolls, and take it from there…** _ > Then they banned the snarkers- no problem there. > > Then they banned those accused of having socks, but that wasn’t me. > > Then they banned those who pissed off the mods, but I didn’t post because I was arguing in the “Why don’t fat people tip?” thread. > > Then they banned me. Because the mod was a non-tipping fat person. And there was nobody left to post in my defense. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/379 "2008-09-11T00:47:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Apparently, it’s coming out of your mouth, too. Aww - you’re so witty and quick! It’s almost like you spend all your free time online just thinking up zingers to throw at people! ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/380 "2008-09-11T00:48:09Z")
> [@Frustrated\_Wonderer](#): > > I wonder what Cecil has to say about all this non-sense and attention whoring. Cecil and Ed Zotti aren’t on speaking terms, y’know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=20)