# WTF? Otto was just banned by Ed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/441 "2008-09-11T02:27:26Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Doesn’t everybody? Say what you will about her politics, she is hot, easily the best looking politician in the United States and probably in the Top 5 worldwide. That is a pretty low bar you are setting and I do not find her attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/442 "2008-09-11T02:31:29Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Ed’s bizzare hissy fit has made me wonder whether I owe you an apology for my sponsorship. At any rate, I wish you’d have joined much earlier — back when Spiritus Mundi, PLDennison, and others were here. It used to be a special place. Your posts are a highlight for me these days. I seek them out, so thanks for all your contributions. I’m flattered, and thank _you_ again for your initial sponsorship. Incidentally, I haven’t seen you around that much lately; have you cut back your posting or have we just not been crossing paths that much? (I have this feeling of déjà vu as though I’ve asked this question before, but can’t remember when or where) ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/443 "2008-09-11T02:32:43Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > That is a pretty low bar you are setting and I do not find her attractive. You realize you’re in the minority, right? Just like Obama voters in November. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/444 "2008-09-11T02:32:48Z")
I add my voice to all the many others who are concerned what this particular banning means for the future well being of the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/445 "2008-09-11T02:44:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I totally understand the banning. I used to teach in elementary school. There are times when you need to get control of a classroom. You tell them all to shut the fuck up and the next fucking kid who says a word is going to take a hike down the hall. There’s always one little shit who just _has_ to pipe up and test the teacher. **Otto** was that little shit, and you _always_ have to follow through and make an example of that little shit or they’ll _all_ start doing it. Of all the posts in this thread I find this one most shocking and “you have got to be fucking kidding me” of them all. Which is to say, _you_ used to teach in elementary school? By any chance did you dress as a clown and hang out in the sewer? ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/446 "2008-09-11T02:44:41Z")
We all got a little worked up today. Read here: > **[Time out, everybody](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482772)** > > OK, everybody needs to take a timeout, me included. I’ve revoked the posting privileges of a few people. In the first case I concede I did so precipitously. A couple of subsequent cases occurred after I specifically said I didn’t want to hear any... Nothing more to see here. Move along… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/447 "2008-09-11T02:46:33Z")
Let’s not fool ourselves. Sarah Palin is not hot. She’s hot _for a politician_. There’s a huge difference. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/448 "2008-09-11T02:48:12Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > You realize you’re in the minority, right? Just like Obama voters in November. 😃 His voters being in the minority doesn’t mean he won’t be president. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/449 "2008-09-11T02:48:53Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > You realize you’re in the minority, right? Just like Obama voters in November. 😃 An interesting side issue and I fear you are correct about November. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/450 "2008-09-11T02:48:59Z")
Okay, this probably isn’t a safe thread for a mod – especially Mr. New Kid – but I’m going to gird my loins and make a few comments. First, I fully and completely expect that if I ever got as snarky and obnoxious as **Otto** , that I’d be tossed out. Mods _can_ be suspended, banned, or returned to regular user status. I feel that my “job” as a mod requires me to – well – not be a jerk. > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > A three year old warning? Holy crap, that’s funny. Honestly, I feel bad for you because I realize they look to you guys to find possible reasons, but that’s pretty sad. No, it’s not just a three-year-old warning. In addition to his five (!) warnings in 2005, he also received varying numbers of warnings in 2003, 2006, 2007, and 2008. He has consistently violated the “don’t be a jerk” rule on the board. I find it very hard to believe that he wasn’t intentionally “poking the bear with a stick” when **Ed** announced a new rule and **Otto** immediately questioned him on it. I honestly don’t know what I would have done if I had been in **Ed** ’s shoes and **Otto** had “poked” me. I like to think I would have been a bit less terse, but I really couldn’t tell you whether that straw would have broken this camel’s back or not. **Otto** used up all of his slack a long time ago. > [@Merijeek](#): > > Only took 400+ posts in this thread for something to happen. Seven hours from the OP to **Ed** ’s official response, which pretty much said what you people were asking him to say. Seems pretty reasonable to me. > [@danceswithcats](#): > > BTW-I’ve been trying to send this message for over 15 minutes, but our stellar board performance hasn’t allowed that meager request to be processed. Recommendation: If you get a board timeout, open the thread in another tab or another window and check to see if your message got posted before clicking the “Submit” button again. And again. And again. And again. And again. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/451 "2008-09-11T02:52:31Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Doesn’t everybody? Say what you will about her politics, she is hot, easily the best looking politician in the United States and probably in the Top 5 worldwide. Pfft. Gov. Palin wishes she could be as good looking as [Yulia Tymoshenko](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko). (And if we’re counting guys in the equation, [Viktor Yushchenko](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko) prior to [his dioxin poisoning](http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/The-man-who-survived-Russias-poison-chalice/2005/01/22/1106334263427.html) was damned fine.) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/452 "2008-09-11T02:53:26Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Of all the posts in this thread I find this one most shocking and “you have got to be fucking kidding me” of them all. > > Which is to say, _you_ used to teach in elementary school? > By any chance did you dress as a clown and hang out in the sewer? Is this really necessary? Have I ever insulted you? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/453 "2008-09-11T02:53:54Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > That is a pretty low bar you are setting… While I agree that attractiveness does not equal suitability to govern (but it does draw votes; how many have been swayed by Obama’s good looks?), I’d like to ask which politicians, especially worldwide, you find as attractive? Seems to me like Obama would be a good match on the male side, but female? None I’m aware of short of [Yulia Tymoshenko](http://www.tymoshenko.com.ua/eng/) and [Carla Bruni, aka Madame Sarkozy](http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/queenembed_458815a.jpg). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/454 "2008-09-11T02:57:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [Carla Bruni, aka Madame Sarkozy](http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/queenembed_458815a.jpg). She’s not really a politician, is she? I mean, she’s just a typical First Lady without any apparent political aspirations of her own. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/455 "2008-09-11T02:57:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Is this really necessary? Have I ever insulted you? No, nor I you to my knowledge, nor do I here, but based on your threads I can’t imagine you as an elementary school teacher. It seems you’d go absolutely and homicidally nuts. (I know I would.) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/456 "2008-09-11T02:58:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > While I agree that attractiveness does not equal suitability to govern (but it does draw votes; how many have swayed by Obama’s good looks?), I’d like to ask which politicians, especially worldwide, you find as attractive? Seems to me like Obama would be a good match on the male side, but female? None I’m aware of short of [Yulia Tymoshenko](http://www.tymoshenko.com.ua/eng/) and [Carla Bruni, aka Madame Sarkozy](http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/queenembed_458815a.jpg). 🙂 My point is that politicians are rarely what I call attractive. Palin is only attractive by this low competition. Her looks and Obama’s looks have nothing to do with my voting anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/457 "2008-09-11T02:58:46Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Is this really necessary?\ Probably not necessary, but damned funny. ETA: OHMYFUCKINGGOD ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT PALIN AGAIN?!?! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/458 "2008-09-11T03:00:20Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > She’s not really a politician, is she? I mean, she’s just a typical First Lady without any apparent political aspirations of her own. You’re right, of course. I guess I was just thinking in terms of women in a political sense who project a positive image for their country. I withdraw (but not her photo ;)) my mention of Bruni as a pol. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/459 "2008-09-11T03:01:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > While I agree that attractiveness does not equal suitability to govern (but it does draw votes; how many have been swayed by Obama’s good looks?), I’d like to ask which politicians, especially worldwide, you find as attractive? Seems to me like Obama would be a good match on the male side, but female? None I’m aware of short of [Yulia Tymoshenko](http://www.tymoshenko.com.ua/eng/) and [Carla Bruni, aka Madame Sarkozy](http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/queenembed_458815a.jpg). 🙂 Did you post the worst pic you could find of Carla? Well, ok I admit, most of the pics that turn up in the image search are nekkid or nearly so. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/460 "2008-09-11T03:01:36Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > ETA: OHMYFUCKINGGOD ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT PALIN AGAIN?!?! Yeah, but only because she’s hot! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=24)