# WTF? Otto was just banned by Ed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/561 "2008-09-11T20:00:15Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Again, we aren’t _shaping_ the content; we are creating it out of nothing. In your analogy, we decide on the menu, go out and buy the groceries, bring it back and prepare it, and then server it to the customers. And we are also the customers. > > The board staff is the company that supplies the tables and chairs. And security, which I’m more than willing to praise them for. As far as naming you a mod, **Arnold** , you’re right…you were an Admin back when I started here (yeah, I’ve been here THAT LONG!) and my brain still sees that title under your name. Sorry. But I have to admit, if you’re not speaking as an Admin or mod, what are you talking about, “we”? Who’s doing this shaping? The staff, or “we” the board members? I can see the staff being seen as shaping, because it is they who create new fora and decide what the fora will be about. However…they don’t populate those fora. To shift to a garden analogy, the board staff create the hardscaping: the paths and rock garden areas and garden walls and raised beds and such. And we appreciate that. And sometimes that’s all a garden is…look at Zen meditation gardens. But to most people, in most venues that people think of as “gardens”, that’s not enough. You need flowers, you need plants, you need water features. This is a garden that the Reader was nice enough to dig out for us, but it would be three acres of dirt without the members bringing and growing plants and flowers and things like that. I repeat, in the new analogy, that without the members, the advertising opportunities are limited to the top three fora, which pretty much constitute a couple of shade trees next to a water fountain. The staff is great at what they do, but what they do isn’t what’s bringing people to this board. People come to this board because of two things: The Straight Dope column and content by members. You can claim that it’s the staff’s impeccable taste that makes this place a success, but that’s not true. It’s OUR taste, the collective taste of the SDMB, that makes this place a success. That’s a taste that ranges from substantive discussions of opera to threads about poo-splatter patterns. People come as much for the lowest of the MPSIMS low as they do for the highest-brow of Cafe Society and Great Debates. And every last bit of it is **created** by us, no matter how it’s “shaped” by staff. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/562 "2008-09-11T20:00:47Z")
I’ll have what **Mince** is having. In a slightly lighter dosage; I’m driving. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/563 "2008-09-11T20:11:09Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > You mean, with the meat slightly pink? Or invisible? It’s invisible. I only know it’s slightly pink because the chef tells me so. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/564 "2008-09-11T20:12:38Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > I’ll have what **Mince** is having. In a slightly lighter dosage; I’m driving. Here ya go, **Sigmagirl**. Presumably, there’s plenty to spare. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10177814&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10177814&postcount=1) ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/565 "2008-09-11T20:22:56Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > I’ll have what **Mince** is having. In a slightly lighter dosage; I’m driving. Right now while you’re posting? Impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/566 "2008-09-11T20:49:54Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > Either way, I like medium rare. They’re unicorns. Isn’t it “extremely rare” or nothing? ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/567 "2008-09-11T21:15:15Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > 😃 I don’t know, it might with a punk beat. > > How about a compromise, a small pegacorn? It seems like you’re an expert on being a punk. And I mean that in the prison sense. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/568 "2008-09-11T21:15:48Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Hi, everyone. It is such a great day in Straight Dope Land. I’m very happy. I love things. Flowers make me smile. Trucks go “vroom vroom.” Happy day for everyone. Smile Smile. Everything makes me smile. Smiling makes me smile. Happy day. Everything is beautiful and wonderful and great and neat and fantastic and terrific and super duper neat-o cool. I’m just so happy. Admin is so wonderfully awsomely terrifically beautifully neat-o. > > Happy happy. I love to smile. I love happy. You’ve been diving in the liquor cabinet again, haven’t you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/569 "2008-09-11T21:21:05Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Your post in the other thread was a great example of why I continue to hold you in low regard. Because I offer a little sympathy and commiseration to a guy I think is the target of an overly aggressive pile-on? Are equally offended by the posts in this thread: > **[Time out, everybody](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482772)** > > OK, everybody needs to take a timeout, me included. I’ve revoked the posting privileges of a few people. In the first case I concede I did so precipitously. A couple of subsequent cases occurred after I specifically said I didn’t want to hear any... > [@](#): > > Just because we already don’t like each other, means I shouldn’t say anything? Well, if you want to pretend you’ve got any principles, yes. Because you did in fact take me to task in the not-too-distant past for making a disparaging comment about one of your own inane posts - the implication of which was that I was following you around simply to snipe at you because I was still holding a grudge about a long past incident. Perhaps this will refresh your memory - if not your principles. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8424670&postcount=17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8424670&postcount=17) ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/570 "2008-09-11T21:21:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You’ve been diving in the liquor cabinet again, haven’t you. 🙂 I’m guessing Ecstasy: [MilkandCookies](http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/73199/detail/) ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/571 "2008-09-11T21:21:31Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You’ve been diving in the liquor cabinet again, haven’t you. 🙂 Another one for your list? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/572 "2008-09-11T21:29:50Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > I’m guessing Ecstasy: [MilkandCookies](http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/73199/detail/) I’ll bet you’re right. > [@rayh](#): > > Another one for your list? Thanks for reminding me. I need to hit the L-store soon myself. ---
**Author:** ![Suse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Suse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/573 "2008-09-11T21:40:02Z")
I wasn’t even on the boards for most of what happened yesterday. But I did read the OP of Ed’s in the “Warning - stop whining” thread and it was obvious that he had reached his limit. So yeah, I think when Otto posted his little dig - and I read it exactly the way Ed appeared to have read it - he deserved what he got. I’ve been reading but not saying much about all this mess over the last week, but I’ve been really disgusted with all the whining and complaining over the new forum. It’s Ed’s board. It can be whatever he wants it to be for as long as CL gives him the right to make the decisions. And if he decides that his staff has had enough crap thrown at them and does something about getting the shit-flinging to stop, more power to him. Otto has been one of the snarkiest whiners on the board lately. I have often wondered when I see one of his posts what he would do if he were a mod and had to put up with the sort of remarks he seems to take great joy in making. I seriously doubt he would put up with the shit if he were on the receiving end. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/574 "2008-09-11T22:26:25Z")
You don’t eat the unicorn, goddammit! You eat the delicious chocolate candies it poops! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/575 "2008-09-11T22:37:53Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > You don’t eat the unicorn, goddammit! You eat the delicious chocolate candies it poops! If it doesn’t poop candy corn, how magical can it be? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/576 "2008-09-11T22:39:37Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > It seems like you’re an expert on being a punk. And I mean that in the prison sense. What does that mean in the prison sense? It sounds like a pretty shitty thing to call someone. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/577 "2008-09-11T22:43:06Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > What does that mean in the prison sense? It sounds like a pretty shitty thing to call someone. It means buttboy…basically, the prisoner the other prisoners use for sex. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/578 "2008-09-11T22:46:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It means buttboy…basically, the prisoner the other prisoners use for sex. Nice, real nice \*\*Omegaman \*\*. What brought that on? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/579 "2008-09-11T22:50:30Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > What does that mean in the prison sense? It sounds like a pretty shitty thing to call someone. Don’t mind O-Man, if you haven’t noticed he is our resident Craaaaaazy…half the time I get the impression he is posting from a psych ward. Now he will make with the threats and the tough talk, that or he will start the “I love you man” or the persecution complex. He is a broken clock that ain’t even right once a day… ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/580 "2008-09-11T22:53:44Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Don’t mind O-Man, if you haven’t noticed he is our resident Craaaaaazy…half the time I get the impression he is posting from a psych ward. > Now he will make with the threats and the tough talk, that or he will start the “I love you man” or the persecution complex. He is a broken clock that ain’t even right once a day… I was about to say it sounds like he’s role-playing a tough guy with language he’s learned from bad movies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=30)