# WTF? Otto was just banned by Ed.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/641 "2008-09-13T11:58:01Z")

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**ivan** , I try to be a gentleman. So telling a [DEL]lady[/DEL] [fixed: person of the female gender] to “please shut up already” seems rude. Could you please do that for me?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/642 "2008-09-13T12:11:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Oh, I’m sure it will.

You must have seen this in your crystal ball too? **“Suck some cock, and STFU!”**  
Or to be more literal, go fiddle with yourself and do something useful with your fingers.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/643 "2008-09-13T12:38:57Z")

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Let’s put it this way: is your favorite song, “Under the Bridge?”

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/644 "2008-09-13T12:50:04Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Let’s put it this way: is your favorite song, “Under the Bridge?”

You’re doing that thing with your fingers again. Do the other thing.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/645 "2008-09-13T18:25:57Z")

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[quote=“1920s Style “Death Ray”, post:638, topic:462971”]

\<snip\> We are certainly not _entitled_ to a say in how the board is run.\<snip\> IMO the centre piece of this board is GQ.  
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And yet I almost never go there. 🙂

I agree, we’re not entitled to say how the board is run, but I do think we are entitled to give feedback when we see something particularly not working. A business that takes no feedback from the people participating in it (by working there or by buying its product) is heading for trouble. I also have no problem with that feedback being limited to particular areas (which used to be ATMB and the Pit, and is now just the Pit).

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/646 "2008-09-15T03:09:04Z")

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Well, looks like [**Otto** ’s gone for good.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=483391) A hell of a thing. I have to admit that he fatally fucked up with the sock post, but I can understand his frustration at not being able to have his say otherwise.

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**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/647 "2008-09-15T03:53:19Z")

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I don’t have a dog in this fight. I don’t recall ever getting a warning from a mod but I think Otto should not have been banned just because they suspected him of sockery for one post. It’s possible that his friend could have used Otto’s computer to make that post and it would have the same IP.

Hell I could be on one computer and have a friend on one of my other computers and it would show both of us on the same IP. So I don’t feel basing the banning on that is fair

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/648 "2008-09-15T03:57:38Z")

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> [@MannyL](#):
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> I don’t have a dog in this fight. I don’t recall ever getting a warning from a mod but I think Otto should not have been banned just because they suspected him of sockery for one post. It’s possible that his friend could have used Otto’s computer to make that post and it would have the same IP.
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> Hell I could be on one computer and have a friend on one of my other computers and it would show both of us on the same IP. So I don’t feel basing the banning on that is fair

Seriously? Otto’s “friend” may have used the computer to submit a post that speaks to Otto’s suspension in the first person?

C’mon! **Otto** was an idiot for posting that. Period. He’s been around long enough to know better. I defended him in this thread. I felt the outrage for the initial banning as much as anyone else here did. But this is different…this time he deliberately stepped over the most permanent and long-standing line in the sand of this message board: NO SOCKS! We all know the rule. Nobody who’s posted here longer than a month can say they don’t know the rule. **Otto** especially. That post was suicide-by-mod. He deliberately broke the sock rule so he’d get perma-banned. There’s no way this wasn’t done for the purpose of being banned.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/649 "2008-09-15T04:00:20Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Seriously? Otto’s “friend” may have used the computer to submit a post that speaks to Otto’s suspension in the first person?
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> C’mon! **Otto** was an idiot for posting that. Period. He’s been around long enough to know better. I defended him in this thread. I felt the outrage for the initial banning as much as anyone else here did. But this is different…this time he deliberately stepped over the most permanent and long-standing line in the sand of this message board: NO SOCKS! We all know the rule. Nobody who’s posted here longer than a month can say they don’t know the rule. **Otto** especially. That post was suicide-by-mod. He deliberately broke the sock rule so he’d get perma-banned. There’s no way this wasn’t done for the purpose of being banned.

**Otto** can go cry to Pete Rose for sympathy now. He broke the cardinal rule, and paid the price.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/650 "2008-09-15T04:05:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> **Otto** can go cry to Pete Rose for sympathy now. He broke the cardinal rule, and paid the price.

IIRC, NightRabbit was a long-term and active sock of nongoog, and she was only suspended, not banned. Why? I mean, if this is such a cardinal and inviolate rule?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/651 "2008-09-15T04:15:51Z")

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Well damn. I never liked **Otto** but I argued for him to be allowed back because I didn’t think the allegedly snarky post really was. Seems I was wrong.

His perma-ban is fully justified. Come on, what part of NO SOCKS didn’t he understand?

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/652 "2008-09-15T04:21:15Z")

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Suicide by sock.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/653 "2008-09-15T04:21:25Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> IIRC, NightRabbit was a long-term and active sock of nongoog, and she was only suspended, not banned. Why? I mean, if this is such a cardinal and inviolate rule?

Maybe because of a difference of more than a dozen prior warnings. But I’m just guessing.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/654 "2008-09-15T04:25:14Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> His perma-ban is fully justified. Come on, what part of NO SOCKS didn’t he understand?

I’d be a little put out if he’d been banned for creating a sock while he was already banned (and had no idea he was going to be reinstated), but since he did it while he was already de-banned, I don’t think he left anyone much of a choice here.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/655 "2008-09-15T04:26:38Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I’d be a little put out if he’d been banned for creating a sock while he was already banned (and had no idea he was going to be reinstated), but since he did it while he was already de-banned, I don’t think he left anyone much of a choice here.

I think he wanted to be banned. If you read the message he posted, he even said, “I’ll take my banning like a man.” So that’s that. But one instance of open socking shouldn’t be grounds for banning, if it’s not a policy that’s going to be uniformly implemented.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/656 "2008-09-15T05:28:47Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> I have to admit that he fatally fucked up with the sock post, but I can understand his frustration at not being able to have his say otherwise.

But that post came _after_ he’d been told he just had to sit out for the weekend instead of receiving a permanent ban. If I were him I would have been thanking my lucky stars the ban was reversed, not breaking the rules and creating a sock just so I could start bitching about it a few days early.

Either he was deliberately trying to get himself banned or he was just being an idiot. I suspect the latter, since he was apparently making excuses for it. (I’m sorry, you expect me to believe your “long-time reader” friend just happens to make his first ever post _on your computer_ at a time when you’re banned?)

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/657 "2008-09-15T05:48:47Z")

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Ed’s a douche. He can cry crocodile tears til the cows come home and he’ll still be a douche. The board has lost an active participant in the community because Ed couldn’t act mature.

I think the sock rule is silly and therefore it holds no weight in my opinion of his banning.

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/658 "2008-09-15T06:02:20Z")

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Hi, I’m bbs2k. I’ve lurked on this forum for a number of years, but now that we are back to free posting I decided to sign up.

My \*friend \*wanted me to ask a question, \*he \*wanted to know if you could catch any diseases by having sex with a corpse. Is that okay? My _friend_ is curious.  
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/659 "2008-09-15T06:03:13Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Ed’s a douche. He can cry crocodile tears til the cows come home and he’ll still be a douche. The board has lost an active participant in the community because Ed couldn’t act mature.
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> I think the sock rule is silly and therefore it holds no weight in my opinion of his banning.

He broke a rule because he couldn’t even bear to wait until Monday to resume complaining, and you blame **Ed**?

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**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/660 "2008-09-15T06:14:41Z")

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In the words of a previous roommate,

> [@Previous Roommate](#):
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> Ed is a bag of dicks.

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