# WTF? Otto was just banned by Ed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971 "2008-09-10T18:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/161 "2008-09-10T21:07:46Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you think **Otto** ’s comment was a personal attack, you obviously haven’t been hanging around here nearly enough. Or else YOUR head is stuffed so far up Ed’s ass you’re licking his rib cage. You can quit putting words in my mouth anytime, **Guin**. I didn’t say Otto’s post was a personal attack. I was referring to the multiple personal attacks leveled in the recent past. Go back and re-read my post. Incidentally, if you’re retarded enough to post “Cite?” on the multiple instances of personal attacks, I’m not going to hunt down links for you. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/162 "2008-09-10T21:09:11Z")
> [@Charlie\_Tan](#): > > Do you say that as a poster or a mod? > > Remember, I’m no fan of Otto. \*\*Frank \*\*is not a mod. Check his title. He stepped down a few weeks back. I also disagree with \*\*Frank \*\*on this. If \*\*Otto \*\*goes, how many more are then on the cut list? He picked a piss poor time and location to post a bitchy question, but it did not deserve the nuclear option. ETA: This thread is moving too quick for me. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/163 "2008-09-10T21:09:43Z")
> [@UncleBeer](#): > > I’m not trying to single you out here, Dave, since many others have asked the same thing. But, honestly, do you really think Otto (and everybody else who’s been here more than a couple days) doesn’t already know the answer to such a question? It’s not often that I get to be on the same side as **Weirddave** in a flamefest. But [nice rimjob you gave Ed, Unc](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10179426&postcount=30). ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/164 "2008-09-10T21:09:48Z")
> [@Ceejaytee](#): > > Wow. I can understand being tired of the whining but Otto’s post barely reached Cecil-level snark. That’s what makes the administration’s attitude so ironic. This place was built on snark. If snark is now the ultimate offense, maybe it’s time to pull the plug - or let someone else play Cecil for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/165 "2008-09-10T21:10:12Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > **Otto** should have been banned a long time ago. > > If his banning is the harbringer of _real_ enforcement of the “Don’t be a jerk” rule returning, I’m all for it. Under normal circumstances I’d cheerfully agree with you except the attitude expressed isn’t “don’t be a jerk”, it’s “don’t piss me off!” and that makes me uneasy, since it suggests a short-tempered admin who will lash out arbitrarily. In fact, my just calling him “short-tempered” might get _me_ banned, if he’s in the mood to do so. In fact, my suggestion that he’s moody might be enough. What is the threshold? I have no way to tell. Offhand, I think I’ve bought three Charter Membership years. Under these circumstances, that’ll be enough. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/166 "2008-09-10T21:10:15Z")
> [@Merkwurdigliebe](#): > > Paying members tend to get pissed when shit doesn’t work. Customers. Paying customers. ---
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/167 "2008-09-10T21:10:37Z")
> [@Nutty\_Bunny](#): > > No, YOU spare us. **Otto** didn’t attack anyone. He simply asked a fucking question in a way that was so far away from the usual **Otto** snark, that I didn’t even read it as snark. I don’ t see where he was _whining_ about anything. You can join **Guin** in re-reading my post. I never said that Otto’s post was a personal attack. I never attempted to say that banning Otto for what he did was justified or unjustified. I asked folks to consider the bigger picture. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/168 "2008-09-10T21:10:41Z")
You know, if this banning is indicative of anything more than a bad day (a VERY bad) of Ed’s, there’s a whole lot of us who are going to have to find something else to do with our time real soon. I think there are about 17 posters in this thread who have virtually asked for a banning by blasting Ed on his own website, and far more savagely than \*\*Otto \*\*did. If they’re not banned (and soon), Ed is admitting that he had a hissy-fit. And if they are banned for whining, threatening to leave, incivility, holding one’s pinky in the air whilst drinking tea insufficiently high, bad attitude, or general mopery, that’s the sound of Pandora’s Box opening that you hear. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/169 "2008-09-10T21:11:39Z")
> [@Merkwurdigliebe](#): > > He acts like he’s doing us a favor by keeping this board running when in reality running a vBulletin board isn’t fucking rocket science. > > In the columns Ed has done nothing but give the truth as he saw it, but on these boards, we’ve been kept in the dark about the nature of the system, and why it suffers such poor performance. If the board were a car, it would be a lemon. **Why oh why does every other board out there on the internet work completely fine except this one?** People aren’t stupid. > > If Ed or Jerry had been completely honest about the situation ( other than ‘we’re working on it’) then we wouldn’t be here. Paying members tend to get pissed when shit doesn’t work. > > So yes, it’s the disrespect from Ed which is pissing people off. His lack of interest or patience for the board clearly shows he doesn’t see much value in it other than the amount of money it can make him. This would describe his erratic behavior (bolding mine) This is the question I’d really like to see answered. Why is it just this board that doesn’t work properly? ---
**Author:** ![Buckwheat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@Buckwheat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buckwheat)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/170 "2008-09-10T21:12:33Z")
Ed Zotti you are a prick. I will never visit this site again, so help me God. I’m outta here! Suck it Ed. ---
**Author:** ![mske](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mske](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mske)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/171 "2008-09-10T21:13:03Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > You know, if this banning is indicative of anything more than a bad day (a VERY bad) of Ed’s, there’s a whole lot of us who are going to have to find something else to do with our time real soon. > > I think there are about 17 posters in this thread who have virtually asked for a banning by blasting Ed on his own website, and far more savagely than \*\*Otto \*\*did. If they’re not banned (and soon), Ed is admitting that he had a hissy-fit. And if they are banned for whining, threatening to leave, incivility, holding one’s pinky in the air whilst drinking tea insufficiently high, bad attitude, or general mopery, that’s the sound of Pandora’s Box opening that you hear. Nah - we’re in the pit. His Crankiness has permitted us to be as ungrateful as we want here. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/172 "2008-09-10T21:13:07Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > It’s not often that I get to be on the same side as **Weirddave** in a flamefest. But [nice rimjob you gave Ed, Unc](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10179426&postcount=30). Why do you care? ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/173 "2008-09-10T21:13:25Z")
A technical question. If **Otto** is indeed banned, why is he currently showing as online? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/174 "2008-09-10T21:13:41Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > **Otto** should have been banned a long time ago. > > If his banning is the harbringer of _real_ enforcement of the “Don’t be a jerk” rule returning, I’m all for it. Maybe, maybe not, but at lest ban him for being a jerk instead of for asking a question. It sets a bad precendent. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/175 "2008-09-10T21:13:56Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > **Otto** should have been banned a long time ago. > > If his banning is the harbringer of _real_ enforcement of the “Don’t be a jerk” rule returning, I’m all for it. Is he that bad, **Frank**? Fuckin’ bloody hell. What do you think of the rest of us? All he ever does is bitch, mostly in the proper forum. Fuck! I totally respect your opinion, and I’m sure you’ve seen things I haven’t, but I’m not feeling it.☹ ---
**Author:** ![alexandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@alexandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandra)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/176 "2008-09-10T21:14:28Z")
I’m actually kind of … sad. :o I was geekily excited about being able to post on this board again after lurking for years and years, and seriously cut down my activity on livejournal to focus on here. Now, people can be spontaneously (no I don’t believe it was justified or indeed there was much long-term history taken into account) banned and the admin is threatening to completely forbid discussion of moderating decisions. Because…why? Because the brouhaha over the Barn House must have been a little embarassing for Zotti? Come on, now. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/177 "2008-09-10T21:14:30Z")
> [@UncleBeer](#): > > Why do you care? Well, it’s a little distasteful, given the immediate circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/178 "2008-09-10T21:14:44Z")
> [@mske](#): > > Nah - we’re in the pit. His Crankiness has permitted us to be as ungrateful as we want here. Well, for NOW. (I believe he said eventually, even that will change.) ---
**Author:** ![Hogwash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@Hogwash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogwash)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/179 "2008-09-10T21:16:17Z")
> [@Buckwheat](#): > > Ed Zotti you are a prick. > I will never visit this site again, so help me God. > I’m outta here! > Suck it Ed. Your haikus need a little work. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971/180 "2008-09-10T21:16:48Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I actually clicked the Reply button before my better sense prevailed. After all, when Daddy gets like that we all try to be very quiet. You don’t want to make him mad. > > I wish Daddy would stop drinking. Daddy drinks because you complain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-otto-was-just-banned-by-ed/462971.md?page=10)