# WTF? Pay Up or We Let Your House Burn Down? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 6, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210 "2010-10-06T03:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/921 "2010-11-15T20:12:26Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > What’s $75 among friends? I’m not your friend, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/922 "2010-11-15T21:01:14Z")
I heard those firemen released cholera into Haiti’s water supply. Then laughed at all the misery. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/923 "2010-11-15T21:08:36Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > A fireman once bit my sister. She loved it at the time 😕 even made me a sandwich before she left. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/924 "2010-11-15T21:18:35Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > I’m not your friend, buddy. Well, then I’m not your buddy, pal! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/925 "2010-11-16T02:53:33Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > It took me 915 posts but I finally have come around to **gonzomax** ’s way of thinking. The firefighters should have put Cranick’s house out, charged him the $75, and everything would have been fine. There’s no downside to that. What’s $75 among friends? That was truly stupid. Read the thread and then of course you will apologize , for being completely wrong I am sure. You are pretending you have something to add. You obviously do not. That was terrible and as usual wrong. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/926 "2010-11-16T03:04:30Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > That was truly stupid. Read the thread and then of course you will apologize , for being completely wrong I am sure. You are pretending you have something to add. You obviously do not. That was terrible and as usual wrong. Have you made sure everyone in Cranick’s area has paid the $75 yet? How bad are you going to feel when the next house burns down, knowing that you’re now responsible for animals dying? How do you sleep at night knowing that you could have stopped someone from losing their house? If only you’d pay the $75. But remember, it’s not about the money. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/927 "2010-11-16T03:32:35Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Have you made sure everyone in Cranick’s area has paid the $75 yet? How bad are you going to feel when the next house burns down, knowing that you’re now responsible for animals dying? How do you sleep at night knowing that you could have stopped someone from losing their house? If only you’d pay the $75. But remember, it’s not about the money. Back on page 1 or thereabouts I offered my pay pal account to act as a conduit so all of these Cranick supporters could pay his $75 on his new place so there would be no repeat of this case. I am still waiting for the first nickel to show up. That includes **Gonzo**. What does this tell you? It tells me that Gonzo might talk the talk but he doesn’t walk the walk. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/928 "2010-11-16T05:02:16Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > That was truly stupid. Read the thread and then of course you will apologize , for being completely wrong I am sure. You are pretending you have something to add. You obviously do not. That was terrible and as usual wrong. Unfortunately, I don’t have your ability to immediately grasp the complex nuances of a situation like this and explain them to others in clear, logical language. I’ll try to do better in the future. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/929 "2010-11-16T05:04:07Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Unfortunately, I don’t have your ability to immediately grasp the complex nuances of a situation like this and explain them to others in clear, logical language. I’ll try to do better in the future. You also haven’t paid your $75 protection fee yet. But don’t worry, **gonzomax** will chip in for your share, just as soon as he pays for Cranick’s. I assume he’s paid by now right? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/930 "2010-11-16T06:05:42Z")
The fact that you would even mention money shows that you just don’t get it. What does money matter compared with the lives of animals? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/931 "2010-11-16T06:19:09Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > The fact that you would even mention money shows that you just don’t get it. What does money matter compared with the lives of animals? Adorable, fuzzy animals, with big eyes and cute nicknames. If you don’t agree with me, you hate them. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/932 "2010-11-16T19:47:41Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Unfortunately, I don’t have your ability to immediately grasp the complex nuances of a situation like this and explain them to others in clear, logical language. I’ll try to do better in the future. That apparently is correct. i don’t think you lack the ability, you just are not trying. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/933 "2010-11-16T19:54:36Z")
Rofflecakes. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/934 "2010-11-16T23:18:08Z")
If I recall correctly, there is an investigation into the cause of home fires, even if there is no fire department serving a community. Has the investigation into this particular fire been completed and, if so, does the report indicate there actually were a couple of the cute fuzzies in the structure? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/935 "2010-11-16T23:26:36Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > That apparently is correct. i don’t think you lack the ability, you just are not trying. Have you tried to make sure everyone’s subscription has been payed? Do you think Cranick has paid his fee for the year? If he hasn’t, are you going to pay it for him? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/936 "2010-11-16T23:55:59Z")
**emacknight** : You forgot one important question to (re)ask. Is there any actual proof of the animals Cranick alleges to have perished in the inferno? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/937 "2010-11-17T03:09:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > **emacknight** : You forgot one important question to (re)ask. Is there any actual proof of the animals Cranick alleges to have perished in the inferno? Or that his house was the one that burned down. Or do we know for sure he didn’t pay the 75 bucks and there wasn’t a clerical error? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/938 "2010-11-17T03:22:28Z")
Of course we know he didn’t pay for the service. He’s already admitted that. While his story as to why he didn’t pay changed from the original version, he has not asserted that he actually paid. Nor is anyone, other than you in your latest attempt at trolling, asserting that this particular structure may not have been Cranick’s. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/939 "2010-11-17T03:28:22Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Or that his house was the one that burned down. Or do we know for sure he didn’t pay the 75 bucks and there wasn’t a clerical error? We do know for sure that you haven’t offered up a single nickle towards Cranick or his community. And you haven’t offered the FD $75 with the request they respond to the next subscriptionless caller. Why is that? If it’s not about the money, what is it about? What is the going hourly wage for internet trolls these days? ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210/940 "2010-11-17T03:58:50Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Or that his house was the one that burned down. Or do we know for sure he didn’t pay the 75 bucks and there wasn’t a clerical error? How do we know you’re not Cranick? Hmmmmm? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wtf-pay-up-or-we-let-your-house-burn-down/556210.md?page=48)