well, my ACP is the military/commercial designation. no reason why colt couldn’t have it’s own different meaning.
The cartridges were designed by JM Browning for pistols sold by Colt. ACP exactly means Automatic Colt Pistol just like the “S&W” in .40 S&W means Smith and Wesson. ACP has never meant anything else with respect to pistol cartridges and I challenge you to provide a cite to the contrary.
:rolleyes:
poooffff…
all wikis describe ACP cartridges with a ‘colt.’ i find this funny because all the gun magazines i read more than a decade ago always said ‘centerfire.’
given the above: can you mention any colt pistol, old or new, that came chambered for either .25ACP or .32ACP? many of these weapons are in fact european models. hard to imagine colt could have influenced design all the way to the former soviet union. in that country, the 9mm ‘short’ was actually the .380 auto (aka .38 ACP)
well, all my monthly gun mags as well as my father’s old US army field manuals are carbonizing in the ground. hereon then it’s automatic colt - pistol for me (damn wiki has betrayed me yet again!)
I hate to change the subject, but if you gave someone the whole mag, he would beat you to death with a bar stool while he bled to death.
Dad said it was “Automatic Cartridge Pistol” and he won the Second World War single handed.
Well, him a few million other guys.
My Great Aunt was murdered by thieves using her .380 Colt automatic.
They gave her the whole mag in the face and she ran out onto the front porch where they killed her with an axe. She had been the third grade teacher of most of the Tennessee state troopers, and the miscreants did not fare well.
somewhat weaker than a .22LR. but one shot could still kill you. mossad agents do it.
too many gun-related words starting with c.
You think? I think if you get a magazine full of .25 acp dumped into your face, throat, or sternum, you will quite likely fall down and die. IMO, the .25 suffers a great deal from most of the guns that are chambered for it being tiny pistols that are hard to shoot with any degree of accuracy. Let’s have a flight of fancy, though. Imagine some of the much more ergonomic guns that fire the ballistically similar .22 lr rechambered for the lowly .25. If Ruger had made a 1025, would you volunteer to stand in front of it?
But they put the silencer behind your ear. Supposedly the round shatters inside the brain and has no barrel markings.
no stopping power though. his bar scenario will stand if he’s already coming at you and you’re just about to fire.
I shot myself in the hand when I was a pup with the above mentioned .32 ACP, it didn’t hurt, and the only worry I had was holding my hand out of the window so as not to bleed on my Father’s car seat.
Seriously, I would much rather stand in front of a .380 or even a .22 LR rather than than crummy High Standard .45 I have.
Which metacarpal did you hit?
oh heck, you could get hit in the hand and still have a lot of fight in you. remember that robert de niro movie “taxi driver?”
I was unloading it while on the phone. Yes, I was a stupid child. The edge of my left palm was hanging over the barrel, the oily slid slipped out of my right hand as I tried to eject the round in the chamber, and it punched cleanly through meat, went through the mattress and stopped on the tacking of the bed spring.
The investigating Little Rock cops in the ER thought it was funny as hell.
a .32ACP can penetrate the old israeli paratrooper’s helmet at close range (whereas the .45 can’t.)
No way. I’ve fired both. The .45 ACP would have taken off my hand, made a golf ball sized hole in the mattress, penetrated the floor, the sub floor, and killed the sleeping dog beneath.
I respectfully ask for a cite.
for the .32ACP gelatin tests (googling several sites right now) show penetration ranges from 9 inches gelatin (using hollow points or expanding lead nose) to 16 inches (unexpanded ball ammo.) in layman’s terms, it either expands well enough to kill a man at close range or it can penetrate your body without deformation and you could possibly survive.
for the .45ACP (more googles) different results with different bullet types. but this is what all shooters say: the .45 generally penetrates less than a 9mm or a .357 mag. and only a few tricked out .45 bullets can be made to expand. but neither expansion nor penetration is important for the 45 because that giant slug will up-end you at close range and you on the ground are a lot worse off than you standing up with a wound from a smaller bullet.
I thought bullets can’t knock you down, because of Newton’s third law of motion the shot that knocks the target off his feet would also knock the shooter off of his.