# WWJD Re: Gay People. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 18, 2019, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146 "2019-05-18T09:06:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/101 "2019-06-12T13:56:37Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > If the man was a _god_, he could take away the pain and all the negativity of the experience, AND he knew he’d be okay in three days. He chose not to do that. He knew what was coming. His ‘Gethsemane Moment’, if you will, was agonizing. > **[Agony in the Garden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agony_in_the_Garden)** > > The agony in the Garden of Gethsemane is an episode in the life of Jesus, which occurred after the Last Supper and before his betrayal and arrest, all part of the Passion of Jesus leading to his crucifixion and death. This episode is described in the three Synoptic Gospels in the New Testament. According to these accounts, Jesus, accompanied by Peter, John and James, enters the garden of Gethsemane on the Mount of Olives where he experiences great anguish and prays to be delivered from h This epi... ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/102 "2019-06-12T14:14:06Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Now if someone isnt a Christian and accepted Christ then I would witness to them to do that. THEN it is up to them to pray, read the bible, and accept the guidance of the holy spirit as to what is sin or not. No; then it is up to you to accept that not everyone is a Christian. Bear in mind that there are people who are equally as certain as you are about what God wants, but who are certain that God does not want them to be Christians. Many of them are certain that God doesn’t want you to be a Christian either. And that is leaving out all the people who are certain that they can’t very well accept the guidance of something that doesn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/103 "2019-06-12T14:34:27Z")
I hope the people here rallying against homosexuality because of the bible are also vehemently against tattoos, eating bacon, eating shrimp, eating rabbit, mixing fabrics, mixing cattle breeds, sowing the fields with two kinds of seed, letting your wife wear your jacket, divorce, and being near menstruating women. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/104 "2019-06-12T14:38:32Z")
And in favor of killing witches, and women not talking in church, not leading men, and being totally submissive to their husbands. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/105 "2019-06-12T14:46:05Z")
I’m all for submissive wives, but I couldn’t find one to marry! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/106 "2019-06-12T14:59:59Z")
My wife’s too busy kicking ass and taking names. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/107 "2019-06-12T15:19:45Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Jesus said in Matthew 19:5 > > 4Jesus answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”… > > For me, regardless of what you think “sin” is, the bible clearly points in the direction of men and women being made for each other. So, if Jesus were to return, what do you think he would do or say in regard to gay people? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/108 "2019-06-12T16:49:05Z")
Then I think that Mt 19:5 would then be different. It (he) would allow for a spectrum of genders, gender identities, gender expressions, etc. The bible was written thousands of years ago. Things have changed. Words have changed. People have changed. But God and Jesus are forever. Jesus would **love**. We should love. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/109 "2019-06-12T16:51:23Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Then I think that Mt 19:5 would then be different. It (he) would allow for a spectrum of genders, gender identities, gender expressions, etc. The bible was written thousands of years ago. Things have changed. Words have changed. People have changed. But God and Jesus are forever. > > Jesus would **love**. We should love. Look, this is all IMHO of course. I’m no theologian, but I read and study the bible, and have been doing so since around 1983. I base this on my experiences and readings, studies, etc. YMMV ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/110 "2019-06-12T17:36:00Z")
Yeah, if 2020 Jesus is going to command teh gayz to repent and redeem, then he’s gonna have to explain hisself a little. “Because I said so” ain’t good enough. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/111 "2019-06-12T17:41:13Z")
I think we should abide by what Jesus said: > [@](#): > > If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/112 "2019-06-12T17:43:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So, if Jesus were to return, what do you think he would do or say in regard to gay people? Gay _People_? Nothing. That wasnt even a consideration back then, no one cared. Some types of gay sex, like older men buying the favors of young boys? He’d condemn that-as everyone does today. As Paul did. (altho we are not entirely sure what Paul meant, admittedly). If normal gay sex came up, He wouldnt argue whether or not it was a sin, He’d simply say _“those of you who are without sin, you can condemn them”_. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/113 "2019-06-12T19:47:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think we should abide by what Jesus said: For the win! ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/114 "2019-06-12T21:22:35Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Of course not and I don’t accept scripture as an authority on social issues. There will be a credibility gap between me and anyone who does. Ok wait. Your not a Christian. So why are you in this debate again? If you dont recognize the divinity of Jesus Christ, then WWJD should mean nothing to you. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/115 "2019-06-12T21:26:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So, if Jesus were to return, what do you think he would do or say in regard to gay people? Why are you asking? Are you a Christian and have given your life to Jesus? If so then you should know the answer. If you follow something else then WWJD and the words in Matthew are meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/116 "2019-06-12T21:29:15Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Yeah, if 2020 Jesus is going to command teh gayz to repent and redeem, then he’s gonna have to explain hisself a little. “Because I said so” ain’t good enough. Many people also rejected his beliefs back then also. Regardless Jesus wouldnt stop to listen to the advice of Hollywood first. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/117 "2019-06-12T21:33:37Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > My wife’s too busy kicking ass and taking names. As were many wives of the Bible. Look up Lydia in Acts 16 who ran an import business in purple dyes and became a follower and supporter of Paul. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/118 "2019-06-12T21:37:07Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Why are you asking? Because I would like to know the answer to the question…and why you dance around that answer. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/119 "2019-06-12T21:44:18Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Many people also rejected his beliefs back then also. > > Regardless Jesus wouldnt stop to listen to the advice of Hollywood first. Who mentioned Hollywood? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146/120 "2019-06-12T21:49:11Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Why are you asking? Are you a Christian and have given your life to Jesus? If so then you should know the answer. What of the opinions of other Christians in this thread? Do you dismiss them as readily if they don’t match up with your beliefs? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwjd-re-gay-people/834146.md?page=7)