# Wypipo?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [July 7, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482 "2018-07-07T19:03:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/1 "2018-07-07T19:03:32Z")

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Yes, I know there is a thread in the Pit that I have not even bothered to post in and one in IMHO that I did. But my comment/question is about rules so belongs here.

We have a poster who uses the word “wypipo” [as follows](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21069659&postcount=80) in reference to other posters:

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I use it to talk to and about big, stupid, over-privileged, racist babies

Its intent is to provoke a response to that implication.

Quite a few posters opine that they would not be insulted to be called that, to be called a big, stupid, over-privileged, racist baby, and they are free to not be. I’ve admitted in the IMHO thread that it really only evokes a roll-eyes from me and a not bothering to engage with the poster further as not worth my time.

But should a word used with the intent of insulting other posters as racists be given a pass in non-Pit threads?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/2 "2018-07-07T19:29:00Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> But should a word used with the intent of insulting other posters as racists be given a pass in non-Pit threads?

IMO, no.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/3 "2018-07-07T19:34:58Z")

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Many people in the Pit thread seem to think it’s the most delightful racial dig of the season!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/4 "2018-07-07T19:40:58Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> But should a word used with the intent of insulting other posters as racists be given a pass in non-Pit threads?

No. It is a deliberately abusive term, the equivalent of n\*\*\*\*r, and should be treated as such. If you want to refer to white people, you refer to them as white people.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/5 "2018-07-07T19:44:41Z")

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I note that the poster in question got a Warning in that thread. So I assumed the question is already answered: don’t use an insulting term against posters on this board.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/6 "2018-07-07T19:48:28Z")

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[From season 1 of SNL, Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor in “Word Association”](https://youtu.be/j9TS1pRmajU)

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/7 "2018-07-07T19:52:41Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> I’ve admitted in the IMHO thread that it really only evokes a roll-eyes from me and a not bothering to engage with the poster further as not worth my time.

The existence of this thread suggests something rather different to me.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/8 "2018-07-07T19:58:35Z")

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Not sure your assumption is valid. The first time using it aimed at other posters got a pass and only its use in an otherwise insulting another poster series of posts (including calling the poster bwana and baas) was there moderation of the poster.

I’d prefer explicit confirmation rather than an assumption.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/9 "2018-07-07T19:58:46Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> No. It is a deliberately abusive term, the equivalent of n\*\*\*\*r, and should be treated as such. If you want to refer to white people, you refer to them as white people.

Not the equivalent, sorry. Good grief.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/10 "2018-07-07T20:07:39Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> The existence of this thread suggests something rather different to me.

The above was to **BigT**. To this … okay, it hits _annoyance_. Gratuitous insults, even ineffective ones, derail potential conversations in non-Pit threads. I am annoyed that an intent to call other posters racist outside the Pit is being given a bye.

But no it is not a serious level insult to me. There are “fighting words” insults; this one aint on or even near the list. Use of “the n-word” as an insult would OTOH be at the top of the list.

Agree with **Hilarity N. Suze** , not equivalents. Not even close.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/11 "2018-07-07T20:10:00Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> No. It is a deliberately abusive term, the equivalent of n\*\*\*\*r, and should be treated as such. If you want to refer to white people, you refer to them as white people.

How about “stupid white people?”

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/12 "2018-07-07T20:15:37Z")

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[Here’s an interesting defense of wypipo](https://www.theroot.com/in-defense-of-wypipo-1797033553). A bit of it sticks out to me:

> [@](#):
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> I have a nephew who used to love to punch me in the stomach as hard as he could. He thought I was so strong because I could take his punches. I didn’t want to tell him, “Nigga, you’re 3! You can’t hurt me!”
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> That’s the same way I’d feel if I were white in America. Words? If my ceiling were limited only by my education, dedication and ability, I wouldn’t give a damn about some smart-ass slur on The Root.

That’s pretty much right. Why would I care about a slur being used against me, a slur that makes fun of me for being in a group of relative power and privilege? Why would I care about that any more than I’d care about a three-year-old’s punch?

Except sometimes I would care about the three-year-old’s punch: if I were trying to have a civil conversation about politics and my nephew kept coming up and smacking me, I’d be irritated. And if the person I was talking with insisted on punctuating their arguments with ineffectual little punches, I’d not be interested in continuing the conversation.

It’s a small deal, and I don’t think it’s worth a warning for, much less worth the histrionics of saying O NOES IT’S AS BAD AS THE N-WORD or whatthefuckever. But it does come across as a little bit edgelord and a lot weaksauce. Folks fine with my having that impression are good to go, but if you’re wanting to be taken seriously, it’s one of the terms (like god-botherers and hand-stabbers and Democraps and Repuglicans and Bernie Bros and Killary and Drumpf and so on and so on) that’s worth avoiding.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/13 "2018-07-07T20:23:33Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> How about “stupid white people?”

Contrary to the thoughts of assorted racists, stupidity is not linked to skin colour.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/14 "2018-07-07T20:31:19Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Contrary to the thoughts of assorted racists, stupidity is not linked to skin colour.

Probably true, but my fellow white people bug me more. At least recently.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/15 "2018-07-07T20:31:57Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> But should a word used with the intent of insulting other posters as racists be given a pass in non-Pit threads?

Wasn’t given a pass.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/16 "2018-07-07T20:35:26Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> (including calling the poster bwana and baas)

For clarity - neither of those is an insult in-and-of-itself.

The sarcasm with which I employed them may have been.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/17 "2018-07-07T20:37:13Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> TI am annoyed that an intent to call other posters racist outside the Pit is being given a bye.

“Wypipo” isn’t a synonymn for “racist”

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/18 "2018-07-07T20:38:54Z")

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One of the perqs of being white is that it’s pretty easy to let race-based insults bounce off you.

If someone is trying to insult you and you pay them no never-mind, they eventually get bored and give up.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/19 "2018-07-07T20:40:14Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> if you’re wanting to be taken seriously

That ship sailed when TPTB decided calling racists “racists” was verboten outside the Pit, but politely-worded or pseudoscientific racist insults were A-OK. All conversation about race here is patently farcical because of that.

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wypipo/817482/20 "2018-07-07T20:44:44Z")

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I prefer Whitey, sounds like an old times gangster ‘Don’t mess with Whitey O’Keith, he’ll mess up your legs & suppress your vote’

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