# x-box: Why no mods? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 12, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248 "2009-11-12T00:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/22 "2009-11-12T21:23:03Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > So what is GameStop going to do to control buying banned consoles? Stop buying for a while? Hook them up? Probably not. GameStop will probably sell them to you, but happily accept the return and give you another used console, which may or may not have the same problem. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/23 "2009-11-14T21:12:09Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Yep. On a 360, he does. > Yoda has spoken. Then full of crap Yoda is. There’s no way to play disc based 360 games without having a disc, original or backup, in the drive. [Cite](http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=687079&st=0&p=4499793&#entry4499793) > [@](#): > > No you cant play game from the HDD without a disc in the console. Note for mods: that’s a site about hacking and modifying systems, but it’s highly moderated and they don’t host or allow linking to any illegal or copyright violating files, so I assume in good faith that this link does not violate SD rules. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/24 "2009-11-14T22:34:42Z")
Hm. It could be that I misunderstood him. In either case, he pirates a bunch of his games. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/25 "2009-11-15T03:54:05Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > IIRC even if you installed to HD you still need to put the disk in to launch the game. > > I don’t install to HD as I only have a 20GB drive I stand corrected. Also, _Carlin voice_, this is fookin’ stoopid. Why would you install to the hard drive if you still need the physical disc in ? I reckoned that was the whole point (20 GB drive here, too. And Rock Band songs are hogging most of the space, too). ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/26 "2009-11-15T04:06:51Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I stand corrected. > > Also, _Carlin voice_, this is fookin’ stoopid. Why would you install to the hard drive if you still need the physical disc in ? I reckoned that was the whole point (20 GB drive here, too. And Rock Band songs are hogging most of the space, too). Faster read times off the HD, I presume. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/27 "2009-11-15T05:21:57Z")
Some games have faster read time, for example, the **Last Remnants** has to be installed on the hard disk or else it would take forever to load when you transit to another area. Also, the spinning sound of the DVD drive is nigh uncomfortable for its case. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/28 "2009-11-15T09:19:13Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > I must admit, it never occurred to me that replacing the HDD would be considered an illegal mod. Is this true with the PS3 too? I’m sure I’ve seen a guide to replacing the HDD in the official PS3 mag. so I hope not… You should be fine. I happen to have my PS3 owner’s manual right here and starting on p16 are the instructions for removing/replacing the hard disk. Sony also put utilities on the PS3 for backing up and restoring your data. ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248/29 "2009-11-17T15:12:26Z")
> [@Valgard](#): > > You should be fine. I happen to have my PS3 owner’s manual right here and starting on p16 are the instructions for removing/replacing the hard disk. Sony also put utilities on the PS3 for backing up and restoring your data. Just to chime in, I replaced my PS3’s HDD last year. I went from the launch 20gb (which I had filled up) and installed a 320gb that I bought on newegg. It took longer to back up and then copy the old data over to the new HDD than it did to change the drive itself. There is a cover that pops off and then you have to remove 5 screws. In fact the PSNetwork info is even stored in local memory so even after swapping the drive and formatting the drive (which the PS3 did automatically on bootup) but before I copied my data back over it logged me right into my account. I have never had a problem since. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-box-why-no-mods/517248.md?page=1)