# X-Men: Days of Future Past (spoilers included) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079 "2014-05-23T11:12:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/21 "2014-05-25T05:33:15Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Yep. Quicksilver says as an aside that his Mother used to know a guy that could control metal. You’re not alone, I went with two other people and the post film pub discussion revealed that only two of us picked up on it. Well, sonofabitch. I assumed the movie was taking an odd swipe at Uri Geller. ---
**Author:** ![Vercingetorix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/848f3c/32.png) [@Vercingetorix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vercingetorix)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/22 "2014-05-25T06:49:39Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I am wondering how they will handle Apocalypse. As I recall that was another Time Travel story. I can’t imagine they will do a second one. Most of the stories involving Apocalypse involve Time Travel because of the involvement of Cable (not to mention the Age of Apocalypse event). But it’s not necessary that an Apocalypse story be a time-travel story. He is, at his core, a very old mutant with very extreme views on survival of the fittest/eugenics. You don’t need any of the future stuff for that to work, especially if you focus on comparing and contrasting Apocalypse’s motives with those of Magneto. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/23 "2014-05-25T08:09:07Z")
Actually Quicksilver didn’t say his mother “knew” someone who could control metal . He said she “dated” someone who could control metal which is an even stronger suggestion that he’s Magneto’s son. I also love the possibilities it opens up for further movies. For example as noted, Wolverine may never have gotten his bones laced with Adamantium. And yes, obvious Apocslypse at the end. But the one I liked was the blink and you missed it reveal about JFK. Logan and Xavier assume a Magneto did kill JFK, but it turns out he didn’t, but actually tried to save JFK because JFK was a mutant and “they”(never explained) stopped him. So there might be some other really powerful group out there involved in conspiracies that we may learn about in future movies. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/24 "2014-05-25T08:31:05Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Well, sonofabitch. I assumed the movie was taking an odd swipe at Uri Geller. AHHHH!! I did too! Just got out of the theater. Incredible. Couldn’t have been better. Except for adding another two or three hours! I never thought Jim Croce would fit in a superhero movie… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/25 "2014-05-25T15:24:04Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Actually Quicksilver didn’t say his mother “knew” someone who could control metal . > > He said she “dated” someone who could control metal which is an even stronger suggestion that he’s Magneto’s son. And there was a quick double take from Fassbender. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/26 "2014-05-25T15:31:31Z")
Is there an site where I could read (for free) the original comic story? I could always read my original copy. But it’s still sitting in a filing cabinet in my mother’s house. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/27 "2014-05-25T16:53:36Z")
Is it even possible for a movie with Jennifer Lawrence Michael Fassbender Patrick Stewart Ellen Page Ian McKellen …to be bad? ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/28 "2014-05-25T20:37:09Z")
There were a couple not-so-subtle things to seemingly ‘remind’ viewers what the characters went through, whos-who- They really beat the ‘Stryker’ angle pretty heavily. The moment I saw his dog tag I remembered who he was, but I guess they had to throw in two or three more references; mentioning his son (that later drives his contempt for mutants), being closely involved with Trask, et cetera. Whats funny is in each movie we see the character progressively younger and younger; in X2 he’s an old man, in Wolverine Origins he’s in his 40s, and in this movie he’s in his 20s. I also got confused at the discontinuity (where was Sabertooth?). When Erik offers to play a game of chess with Charles, the camera is centered on his concentration camp tattoo. I was also looking at the chess boards and wondering if there was some reference hidden in the positions- in many movies Erik is shown playing chess, and there was a chess board in Charles’ run down mansion as well. From the trailers I didn’t realize it was Peter Dinklage, so my wife and I were quite surprised to see this megalomaniac developing giant killer robots ends up being this very articulate, deep voiced midget (dwarf? little person?). Blink had really nifty powers but what bugged me was of all the mutants that were fighting the uber sentinels you’d think she’d be the best off since the sentinels didn’t explicitly ‘counter’ her powers unlike Iceman and Human Torch which got hard-countered pretty badly. I don’t see why she couldn’t just portal the sentinels directly into each other. I also had no idea Kitty Pryde had this time-travelling mind meld power; I thought she just could pass through solid matter? And with that in mind, why even get scratched by wolverine in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/29 "2014-05-25T20:58:04Z")
> [@Incubus](#): > > And with that in mind, why even get scratched by wolverine in the first place? She was concentrating on keeping Wolverine in the past so the claws got her by surprise. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/30 "2014-05-25T21:04:10Z")
> [@Incubus](#): > > From the trailers I didn’t realize it was Peter Dinklage, so my wife and I were quite surprised to see this megalomaniac developing giant killer robots ends up being this very articulate, deep voiced midget (dwarf? little person?). You quoted them in reverse order of political acceptability. Little person is accurate and generally politically correct. Most little people are that way because of various types of dwarfism. In the “**[Ask the dwarf (or little person, or almost any other term you want to use)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=449350)**” thread **whiterabbit** equated “midget” with “nigger”: > [@](#): > > Midget has fallen out of use. I know, it used to be proportional=midget, non-proportional=dwarf. This started in the 1800s, interestingly, in the entertainment world (think circuses). These days it’s generally (I don’t speak for all, I’m sure, but for a large (shut up!) majority it’s considered an insult, sometimes on par with “nigger.” Please, please, please don’t use it unless you are absolutely sure it’s okay with the person in question. I’ve seen a few too many midget jokes even here on the Dope, and I have to say, it really bothers me. > > I don’t like any of the current terms, but I’ll be damned if I can think of anything else to use besides dwarf (okay by me, but not great) or little person (which I am particularly annoyed by). I know “short-statured” is used in some other English-speaking countries, but to me that seems non-specific enough. This is an ongoing argument in LP (I’ll mostly use that) circles. In Dinkledge’s case, I just think of him as an actor. He’s the Morgan Freeman of little people, an actor who embodies a role which such authority that you don’t think that a black actor or a short actor is playing it. ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/31 "2014-05-25T21:50:15Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > In Dinkledge’s case, I just think of him as an actor. He’s the Morgan Freeman of little people, an actor who embodies a role which such authority that you don’t think that a black actor or a short actor is playing it. One thing I loved about him in this movie was that as far as I noticed, nobody ever mentioned his height at any point. It’s not a plot point, nobody insults him by calling him a midget or a dwarf or makes a joke about it. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/32 "2014-05-25T23:04:05Z")
> [@Incubus](#): > > There were a couple not-so-subtle things to seemingly ‘remind’ viewers what the characters went through, whos-who- > > They really beat the ‘Stryker’ angle pretty heavily. The moment I saw his dog tag I remembered who he was, but I guess they had to throw in two or three more references; mentioning his son (that later drives his contempt for mutants), being closely involved with Trask, et cetera. Whats funny is in each movie we see the character progressively younger and younger; in X2 he’s an old man, in Wolverine Origins he’s in his 40s, and in this movie he’s in his 20s. I also got confused at the discontinuity (where was Sabertooth?). > > When Erik offers to play a game of chess with Charles, the camera is centered on his concentration camp tattoo. I was also looking at the chess boards and wondering if there was some reference hidden in the positions- in many movies Erik is shown playing chess, and there was a chess board in Charles’ run down mansion as well. > > From the trailers I didn’t realize it was Peter Dinklage, so my wife and I were quite surprised to see this megalomaniac developing giant killer robots ends up being this very articulate, deep voiced midget (dwarf? little person?). > > Blink had really nifty powers but what bugged me was of all the mutants that were fighting the uber sentinels you’d think she’d be the best off since the sentinels didn’t explicitly ‘counter’ her powers unlike Iceman and Human Torch which got hard-countered pretty badly. I don’t see why she couldn’t just portal the sentinels directly into each other. I also had no idea Kitty Pryde had this time-travelling mind meld power; I thought she just could pass through solid matter? And with that in mind, why even get scratched by wolverine in the first place? No human torch in this movie. That was Sunspot. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/33 "2014-05-25T23:07:41Z")
According to comic book canon, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are Magneto’s children. Hubby thought the girl in the hood after the credits was her. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/34 "2014-05-25T23:09:02Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > No human torch in this movie. That was Sunspot. Bishop. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/35 "2014-05-25T23:19:51Z")
> [@Incubus](#): > > I also had no idea Kitty Pryde had this time-travelling mind meld power; I thought she just could pass through solid matter? And with that in mind, why even get scratched by wolverine in the first place? She didn’t. She never did. Until now. And the other guy could have been Sunspot. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/36 "2014-05-25T23:35:18Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Bishop. Bishop was the guy with the gun and the dreadlocks. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/37 "2014-05-25T23:37:12Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Bishop. No. Bishop was the black guy with the gun. In the first scene Sunspot hit him with his power to charge him up. Later storm did it. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/38 "2014-05-25T23:45:21Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > According to comic book canon, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are Magneto’s children. Hubby thought the girl in the hood after the credits was her. After the credits? That was a dude. And it was Apocalypse creating the pyramids thousands of years ago. You can see the Four Horsemen in the background. When Quicksilver was watching the tv there is a little girl in his lap. Singer has said that was his younger sister but not Scarlet Witch. Quicksilver and the witch are twins. The Scarlet Witch will be in Avengers 2 and was in the end credits of Winter Soldier along with Quicksilver. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/39 "2014-05-26T02:45:13Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > According to comic book canon, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are Magneto’s children. Hubby thought the girl in the hood after the credits was her. That was a guy. Apocalypse. The next film is **X-Men: Apocalypse**. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/40 "2014-05-26T02:46:12Z")
I saw it tonight with the family and loved it. It was probably the best X Men movie yet and Quicksilver stole the movie. The whole audience was applauding by the end of the jailbreak scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079.md?page=3)