# X-Men: Days of Future Past (spoilers included) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079 "2014-05-23T11:12:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/61 "2014-05-27T15:46:33Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > How does she poop in her natural state? If she can control every molecule in her body, why would she have to poop? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/62 "2014-05-27T15:59:17Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > One thing I didn’t quite like was that lacing the sentinels with metal gave Magneto control over their circuitry as well. Seems a bit of a stretch, but I can get over it. It didn’t, magnetism and electricity go hand in hand so he should be able to manipulate data just as easily as tossing a car. Was Emma Frost one of the dead mutants Erik mentioned to Charles? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/63 "2014-05-27T17:01:53Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > It didn’t, magnetism and electricity go hand in hand so he should be able to manipulate data just as easily as tossing a car. Sure, but magnetism/electricity and computer architecture don’t go together hand in hand. Or programming. I don’t expect him to be able to wave his hand over a computer and read the files on it or be able to operate it - which is essentially what he did with the sentinels. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/64 "2014-05-27T17:15:39Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Sure, but magnetism/electricity and computer architecture don’t go together hand in hand. Or programming. I don’t expect him to be able to wave his hand over a computer and read the files on it or be able to operate it - which is essentially what he did with the sentinels. Well he also stole all the plans so he would have known how they worked. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/65 "2014-05-27T17:21:17Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Magneto could probably do it, but it’d still be painful. But maybe not quite “boiling alive in a vat of molten metal” painful. > … I thought having Magneto mention the thing about Wolverine’s claws being metal was maybe a hint that if things changed in this timeline, Magneto might be the one to give him the adamantium claws. However, the whole thing with Mystique being the one to rescue him has me confused, she’s definitely not working with Magneto at that point. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/66 "2014-05-27T17:42:57Z")
I just want to say that I’m SOOOOOOOOO ecstatic that they brought back Jean and Cyclops. Fuck Ratner for killing them off! I hope the whole team’s back together in the Apocalypse movie. Against a guy like that, you’ll need every bit of power to beat ---
**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/67 "2014-05-27T17:56:59Z")
Haven’t read through all the above, but just a fan theory as to why Charles Xavier reincarnated looks like Patrick Stewart again, is crippled again, despite being a transferred consciousness… Conceivably, Xavier _projects_ that image. Maybe he even only projects it into mutants. So maybe average Joe sees the kid he Quantum Leaped into, but mutants “see” Professor X? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/68 "2014-05-27T18:18:01Z")
Well the guy he jumped into was in a coma which easily explains his being crippled also. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/69 "2014-05-27T18:21:04Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > EDITED upon realizing **Sean Factotum** wanted yes or no answers _without_ spoilers. That’s okay. I broke down and read some stuff on the Interwebs about the movie over the weekend. But I appreciate the answers from everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/70 "2014-05-27T18:36:07Z")
My assumption is that we’re now dealing with alternate timelines. In the timeline we saw in this movie–some but not all of the events of X3 happened. Prof X was never killed in this timeline, but Scott and Jean were. You then have to decide if last year’s The Wolverine also took place in this new timeline and Logan was shocked no to see Prof X alive, but to see the he and Magneto working together or if it was yet ANOTHER alternate timeline. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/71 "2014-05-27T23:24:18Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > Stan Lee does not have a cameo in this one. I saw a janitor/jumpsuited support-staff type person that I thought was him at the Pentagon, but it wasn’t. Really? I thought Mystique transformed into him when walking away from Magneto & Beast in Paris… But it was hard to tell because he had his back to the camera. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/72 "2014-05-27T23:25:55Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Really? I thought Mystique transformed into him when walking away from Magneto & Beast in Paris… > > But it was hard to tell because he had his back to the camera. Urp - never mind, that wasn’t him: [Stan Lee Explains Why No Cameo In X-Men: Days Of Future Past - ComicBook.com](http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/05/27/stan-lee-explains-why-no-cameo-in-x-men-days-of-future-past/) ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/73 "2014-05-28T06:35:17Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I’m not that big of a fan of Mystique’s look but that’s the series as a whole and not just this movie. When she morphs, she shows clothing This touches on one of my problems with Mystique and I wonder if it is explored at all in the comic books. When she morphs into another person’s likeness, she duplicates clothes . . . _and accessories_. If she’s imitating a person who wears glasses and a hat, she has the glasses and the hat _as objects separate from herself_. Couldn’t she then just create objects out of nothing? If she’s morphed into the likeness of someone who is carrying a sidearm, she has a sidearm- is it functional? Could she draw and fire? If the objects are functional, and if she can create them while imitating someone else, couldn’t she just create a gun or a sword or a hand grenade or anything she might need in any given situation? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/74 "2014-05-28T07:33:28Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > One other thing that was a little goofy was Magneto casually mentioning that it’s too bad Wolvie’s claws aren’t metal. It was a funny throwaway line, but it doesn’t really hold up. He doesn’t walk up to every other mutant and mention their body parts, wishing that they’re made from metal. I would bet that in fact Magneto does walk around wishing everybody else was made of the metal that he controls. ---
**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/75 "2014-05-28T13:05:20Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > This touches on one of my problems with Mystique and I wonder if it is explored at all in the comic books. > When she morphs into another person’s likeness, she duplicates clothes . . . _and accessories_. If she’s imitating a person who wears glasses and a hat, she has the glasses and the hat _as objects separate from herself_. Couldn’t she then just create objects out of nothing? If she’s morphed into the likeness of someone who is carrying a sidearm, she has a sidearm- is it functional? Could she draw and fire? If the objects are functional, and if she can create them while imitating someone else, couldn’t she just create a gun or a sword or a hand grenade or anything she might need in any given situation? Wikipedia says almost definitely probably yes. > **[Mystique (character)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystique_%28comics%29#Powers_and_abilities)** > > Mystique is a character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer Chris Claremont and artist David Cockrum, the character first appeared in Ms. Marvel #16 (April 1978). A member of a subspecies of humanity known as mutants who are born with superhuman abilities, Mystique is a shapeshifter who can perfectly mimic the appearance and voice of any person. Her natural appearance includes blue skin, red hair, and yellow eyes. > Typically portrayed as a foe of the ... ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/76 "2014-05-28T13:22:44Z")
RE: Magneto controlling the sentinals… I don’t think that he controlled the chips, computer waves, or anything else like that. I was under the impression that when he hijacked the train carrying them he ripped up the metal in the tracks, dismantled them, then weaved them into the physical servos (tendons I guess…) of the robots, and then controlled the metal to control them. Which brings me to this point: Is Magneto REALLY that powerful? In this movie he dismantled metal beams like string cheese, then in the final battle he moved an entire stadium (not entirely made of metal methinks), then had a battle scene where he was fighting people WHILE independently controlling 5 or whatever machines and their battles? That’s insane. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/77 "2014-05-28T13:49:55Z")
Yes, in the comics and movies, Magneto is in fact that powerful/skilled, sometimes moreso. Course, if you think about it - the Prof isn’t a slouch in the powers and control department either. Hmmm, let me use my mind-powers that I haven’t touched in somewhere between 5 years and a decade, and find one person out of this world of approximately 5 billion (in the 70s). Yep. Found her. Now I’ll randomly take over each person she walks by to have a conversation with her, and erase their memories of me doing so while I’m still talking to her through someone else further down the line. No biggie. Personally, I think it’s a bit ridiculous to have them be so powerful, but it is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/78 "2014-05-28T14:18:50Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Which brings me to this point: Is Magneto REALLY that powerful? In this movie he dismantled metal beams like string cheese, then in the final battle he moved an entire stadium (not entirely made of metal methinks), then had a battle scene where he was fighting people WHILE independently controlling 5 or whatever machines and their battles? > > That’s insane. Well for the stadium lifting part, the rebar in the concrete would allow him to move the entire structure, at least those parts that were structurally connected to that concrete. I would guess. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/79 "2014-05-28T14:28:43Z")
And for all that, Magneto isn’t an Omega-class mutant. Just a very powerful one. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/80 "2014-05-28T15:23:14Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > RE: Magneto controlling the sentinals… > > I don’t think that he controlled the chips, computer waves, or anything else like that. I was under the impression that when he hijacked the train carrying them he ripped up the metal in the tracks, dismantled them, then weaved them into the physical servos (tendons I guess…) of the robots, and then controlled the metal to control them. That’s what I was hoping would happen, but the sentinels were operating on a level far too independent to suggest that Magneto was controlling their every action (especially from a few miles away while lifting RFK out of the ground). Add to that the scene where he tells the sentinel “now do what you were made to do”, suggests (at least to me), that Magneto essentially reprogrammed them. It didn’t break the movie for me or anything, it was just a small detail that was hard to swallow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079.md?page=5)