# X-Men: Days of Future Past (spoilers included)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 23, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079 "2014-05-23T11:12:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/121 "2014-05-31T02:44:13Z")

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They killed banshee and bug angel and Emma Frost, who while a bit wooden played by January Jones is still a very interesting character that i am sad to see lost.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/122 "2014-05-31T03:11:49Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> They killed bug-Angel? :mad:

Hers and others autopsy reports were in the documents Mystique was going through in Trask’s office.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/123 "2014-05-31T15:50:17Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Right, the JFK thing assassination thing was strange. I had assumed it would be some other powerful mutant and/or other villain. But was it actually Lee Harvey Oswald. And they talked about a curving bullet, so that means Magneto had an effect on the bullet, does that mean that if Magneto hadn’t been there, that the bullet would have missed JFK? Maybe I’m overthinking this, but it seems strange to mention the JFK assassination as a throwaway plot point.

I agree the JFK thing seemed shoehorned in, but they needed a way to explain Magneto being caught and locked up, and I guess that was a ‘big enough’ thing, so to speak. And I’m guessing that the curving bullet stuff was a reference to, and an explanation for, the [single-bullet theory](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory).

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/124 "2014-05-31T17:45:37Z")

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> [@sohvan](#):
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> I thought Magneto set it free to follow it’s original programming in that scene, so it’s just killing any mutant it sees. A bit later you see one of the Sentinels attack Magneto, and he disassembles it. My memory is a bit hazy on that scene, so I might be misremembering some details.

Right, that’s what I’m saying. He was able to reprogram it while on the train, and then later “set it free”.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/125 "2014-06-01T03:30:08Z")

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Hey, when Wolvie was sent back into the new future, did anyone call him “Wolverine” or just “Logan”?

I ask, because if Stryker never got ahold of him thanks to Mystique(which may or may not be the case) then he never got the code name or dog tags that say “Wolverine” along with no Adamantium claws.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/126 "2014-06-01T05:12:17Z")

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“Logan” from what I heard. But that would have been his usual salutation at X’s school.

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**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/127 "2014-06-01T07:44:39Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Right, that’s what I’m saying. He was able to reprogram it while on the train, and then later “set it free”.

I thought he was just controlling the sentinels against their programming with brute force. Using the metal inside each sentinel to move them manually would be a pretty incredible feat of multitasking, but we’ve seen Magneto do impressive things in the past. When he set them free, he just stopped controlling them.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/128 "2014-06-01T14:14:33Z")

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The problem with that is–why didn’t the sentinel just immediately attack him?

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/129 "2014-06-01T21:32:13Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> The problem with that is–why didn’t the sentinel just immediately attack him?

#1 Rule of Sentinel Self Preservation:  
Do _not_ fuck with the dude who has woven strands of metal through your joints and limbs.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/130 "2014-06-01T22:00:30Z")

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Saw today, thought it was an excellent movie.

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/131 "2014-06-01T22:00:57Z")

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But he hadn’t yet done that. The first mutant he gave the order to, should have identified him as a mutant and killed him instantly.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/132 "2014-06-01T22:09:28Z")

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Well, other than the basic fact that this kind of computing and sensor power doesn’t exist today let alone in 1973…

Reading DNA from a distance, in a fraction of a second? Not likely.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/133 "2014-06-01T23:25:29Z")

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> [@sohvan](#):
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> I thought he was just controlling the sentinels against their programming with brute force. Using the metal inside each sentinel to move them manually would be a pretty incredible feat of multitasking, but we’ve seen Magneto do impressive things in the past. When he set them free, he just stopped controlling them.

He wouldn’t have been able to micromanage that level of detail from 5 miles away while dealing with RFK Stadium, since he wouldn’t be there to aim, assess the situation, know who was there, etc.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/134 "2014-06-02T02:35:42Z")

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So what was JFK’s mutant power? The ability to get laid?

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/135 "2014-06-02T03:21:27Z")

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I liked how many Fatal Attractions references were in the movie. I’m guessing Apocalypse puts Wolverine’s skeleton back to metal.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/136 "2014-06-02T06:46:45Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> And I wanted more of Blink! What a cool power and what an actress 😉

It appears your hopes will be answered. Fan Bingbing’s contract is for five X-Men movies.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/137 "2014-06-02T14:15:25Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It appears your hopes will be answered. Fan Bingbing’s contract is for five X-Men movies.

Sha-Wing!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/138 "2014-06-02T14:59:18Z")

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I haven’t read the comic books in quite a while. Does the comic book version of Kitty Pryde have the time traveling power we saw in the movie?

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/139 "2014-06-02T15:21:28Z")

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As for what this changes, it would appear it’s the same effect as what happened with JJ Abrams Star Trek. If you send one character back in time and change significant events, you can’t assume ANYTHING after that happens as it did the first go around. So in a sense all the X-Men 1, 2 & 3 are all “a different timeline” now.

I would have said that at the end they were setting up for a lot of it to end up being the same… if Wolverine still gets taken by Stryker then he still gets experimented on and given the adamantium, which presumably means he still ends up scrambled. But when they reveal it’s actually Mystique and not Stryker that takes him you lose any answers/continuity that might have provided.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/140 "2014-06-02T15:28:05Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I haven’t read the comic books in quite a while. Does the comic book version of Kitty Pryde have the time traveling power we saw in the movie?

No, it was someone completely different in the comics. It is kitty pride who gets sent back by Jean and Scott’s daughter, but she can’t even exist in the movies since they are both dead.

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