# X-Men: Days of Future Past (spoilers included) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079 "2014-05-23T11:12:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/141 "2014-06-02T15:50:09Z")
I was thinking it would be an interesting way to introduce Rachel Summers but then that’s probably way too convoluted for a movie. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/142 "2014-06-02T17:46:35Z")
As with all time travel movies, you basically cannot delve too deeply into the potentially difficult to answer questions. If it seems to work on the surface then just roll with it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/143 "2014-06-02T18:47:51Z")
> [@johnspartan](#): > > As for what this changes, it would appear it’s the same effect as what happened with JJ Abrams Star Trek. If you send one character back in time and change significant events, you can’t assume ANYTHING after that happens as it did the first go around. So in a sense all the X-Men 1, 2 & 3 are all “a different timeline” now. > > I would have said that at the end they were setting up for a lot of it to end up being the same… if Wolverine still gets taken by Stryker then he still gets experimented on and given the adamantium, which presumably means he still ends up scrambled. But when they reveal it’s actually Mystique and not Stryker that takes him you lose any answers/continuity that might have provided. How about the scene in _Last Stand_ where we saw Charles and Erik still together when they first met Jean Grey? What timeline does that fit into? This was supposed to be sometime in the mid-eighties. It’s possible, of course, that at some point between their breakup in 1962 and their ongoing opposition in the current era, there had been a period in the eighties when Charles and Erik were reconciled. I thought this movie was going to show that by having them reconcile in 1973 in order to retcon the _Last Stand_ scene back into continuity. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/144 "2014-06-02T19:51:28Z")
Magneto has switched sides more times than Anne Heche. I usually say that about Storm Shadow but it works here. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/145 "2014-06-02T22:32:16Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > So what was JFK’s mutant power? The ability to get laid? Perhaps he is the cinematic version of the Purple Man. He has the power to cloud men’s minds so they will vote for him. And the power to cloud women’s minds so they will sleep with him. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/146 "2014-06-03T01:15:56Z")
JFK could read and influence minds. Citation: [The Professor Brothers - History Lesson (JFK) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7y2xPucnAo) (Also flight) ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/147 "2014-06-03T05:05:49Z")
Ok watched it, haven’t read the thread but - Blink can cut sentinels in half by closing portals (it happens in the opening), right? Why can’t she use that to destroy them? Or keep teleporting them far far away? ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/148 "2014-06-03T06:14:19Z")
Also: president reveals new robot army looked strongly like Iron Man 2, and hero asleep and being attacked while simultaneously fighting in his “dream” looked strongly like The Matrix. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/149 "2014-06-03T17:30:43Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > JFK could read and influence minds. Citation: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7y2xPucnAo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7y2xPucnAo) > > (Also flight) I was joking earlier with that citation, but apparently that is actually the power the moviemakers intended: [http://www.empireonline.com/features/days-of-future-past-secrets-explained/p13](http://www.empireonline.com/features/days-of-future-past-secrets-explained/p13) ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/150 "2014-06-03T18:37:06Z")
> [@AaronX](#): > > Ok watched it, haven’t read the thread but - Blink can cut sentinels in half by closing portals (it happens in the opening), right? Why can’t she use that to destroy them? Or keep teleporting them far far away? I think she can only teleport them to somewhere she can actually see and/or influence. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/151 "2014-06-03T18:43:13Z")
> [@AaronX](#): > > Ok watched it, haven’t read the thread but - Blink can cut sentinels in half by closing portals (it happens in the opening), right? Why can’t she use that to destroy them? Or keep teleporting them far far away? She did destroy several of them, she was just overwhelmed like everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/152 "2014-06-03T18:54:03Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I think she can only teleport them to somewhere she can actually see and/or influence. Her power seemed to be an innate Portal Gun from like the game Portal but she could suspend them in air. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/153 "2014-06-03T21:11:41Z")
I’ve only seen her in the few parts of Age of Apocalypse that I’ve read, but couldn’t she create portals over a pretty good distance in the books? ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/154 "2014-06-04T00:59:31Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I think she can only teleport them to somewhere she can actually see and/or influence. No, in the final battle she opens a portal for Magneto to return to the sanctum. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/155 "2014-06-04T03:08:00Z")
I took it that her power was limited to close range or places she’d actually been. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/156 "2014-06-04T03:21:38Z")
I’m not sure why Magneto would have trouble with the sentinels. If he has fifty pounds of ball bearings, he can accelerate them to bullet speeds and shred sentinels with ease. Heck, he could take a mass of iron the size of a marble and flatten it to a razor-sharp disk and dismember sentinels at his leisure Actually, what really vaguely annoyed me was the idea that once Mystique kills someone, she’s past the point of no return. It became increasingly laboured how she was beating people into unconsciousness yet _not_ killing them. Considering the amount of violence she dishes out, the slope to actual killing seems particularly gentle. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/157 "2014-06-04T03:28:43Z")
And here’s something I might have missed-how the heck did they capture Magneto? And could they have built plastic guns in the 70’s? Great costuming, btw-I did enjoy some of the fashion choices. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/158 "2014-06-04T03:33:28Z")
By the way, if a supervillain wants to rip up Montreal’s Olympic Stadium and take it away for realsies, I say let him. My girlfriend was chuckling at some of the recognizable Montreal locations, but aside from the stadium itself, I hadn’t noticed. Plus I was looking for Stan Lee. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/159 "2014-06-04T03:45:34Z")
I liked how “RFK” was preparing for a baseball game. Uh…surely not The Senators, as they were in Texas in 1973. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079/160 "2014-06-04T04:32:55Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Actually, what really vaguely annoyed me was the idea that once Mystique kills someone, she’s past the point of no return. It became increasingly laboured how she was beating people into unconsciousness yet _not_ killing them. Considering the amount of violence she dishes out, the slope to actual killing seems particularly gentle. There was also the ongoing focus of Trask’s murder as a historical pivot. Okay, we know that if Mystique had killed him in Paris it would have led to the dystopia we saw. But even after they had prevented that event, everyone was still focused on sole task of keeping Trask alive - as if his death was the only possible path that led to the bad future. Once Mystique decided not to kill him in Washington, everything was resolved. Nobody was apparently worried that mutants attacking Washington might have triggered the same anti-mutant campaign (or an even worse one). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-days-of-future-past-spoilers-included/689079.md?page=9)