# X-Men First Class, the first look

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 21, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413 "2011-01-21T03:10:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/1 "2011-01-21T03:10:22Z")

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Well, January Jones as Emma Frost looks pretty good. I think that I’d have to see a little more before I give another oppinion on them. We’ll see how the trailers look.

> **[First look at the retro-1960s mutants of X-Men: First Class](https://gizmodo.com/first-look-at-the-retro-1960s-mutants-of-x-men-first-c-5736990)**
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> The first image for Matthew Vaughn's 1960s X-Men flashback is out. Check out Charles Xavier, back when he had hair and could walk, and January Jones in her infamously skimpy Emma Frost outfit.

> **[High res shots of the X-Men: First Class cast have us seriously worried](https://gizmodo.com/high-res-shots-of-the-x-men-first-class-cast-have-us-s-5738129)**
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> Look, we're excited for Matthew Vaughn's X-Men First Class — we loved the hell out of Kick-Ass. But the high-res X-Men cast photo isn't doing this production any favors. UPDATE: More set photos now added!

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/2 "2011-01-21T03:51:35Z")

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On one hand, this movie looks bad for some reason. OTOH, I fucking loved Kick-ass.

So yeah, I’m conflicted.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/3 "2011-01-21T04:43:38Z")

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Why is the person identified as “Angel” a girl?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/4 "2011-01-21T04:47:14Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Why is the person identified as “Angel” a girl?

[Because that’s her gender.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Salvadore)

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/5 "2011-01-21T05:16:49Z")

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So, so far we’ve got one character who will repel fans (Azazel, a character that has only shown up once, and only exists because Chuck Austen is an idiot), one character who will repel non-fans (C-lister fly-girl, who has the same name as one of the protagonists of the last movie), and one that will repel both (January Jones and her ridiculous bra).

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**Author:** ![conway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@conway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conway)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/6 "2011-01-21T16:54:33Z")

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January Jones does not repel me.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/7 "2011-01-21T17:03:42Z")

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From the director, Matthew Vaughn regarding that picture:

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> "I freaked out on them yesterday. I don’t know where the hell that came from. I don’t think it’s a Fox image. It’s not a pre-approved image. When I found out, I said, what the fuck is this shit, and Fox is running around trying to figure out what happened as well. I agree. It’s like a bad photoshop, which maybe it was by someone. **It didn’t reflect the movie.** I was shocked when I saw it. I was like ‘Jesus Christ’…

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/8 "2011-01-21T17:03:55Z")

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If this is actually the cast of characters, I’ve got absolutely no hope for the flick.

Azazel? Yugh.

Mixing the time periods to such an extreme extent? Why? Sure, mixing it up a bit, to get favourite characters together is fine, but in this case it doesn’t work.

_AZAZEL?!_

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**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/9 "2011-01-21T17:28:13Z")

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I’ve only seen January Jones in Mad Men so I might be conflating the actress and the role too much but I don’t think JJ can pull off Emma Frost.

To be fair, I can’t come up with an actress who could.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/10 "2011-01-21T17:35:03Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> From the director, Matthew Vaughn regarding that picture:

That’s a lot of work to make a lot of pictures that aren’t “official,” if they are indeed manipulated images.

Can someone give me the 411 on Azarel? He was after my time and Wikipedia says that he’s a mutant demon who was Nighcrawler’s dad. Was he an X-Man? Is his story as lame as it sounds on wiki? Nightcrawler was cool in the 80’s, does he totally suck now because of this?

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/11 "2011-01-21T17:41:01Z")

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> [@Chopper9760](#):
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> I’ve only seen January Jones in Mad Men so I might be conflating the actress and the role too much but I don’t think JJ can pull off Emma Frost.
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> To be fair, I can’t come up with an actress who could.

Could not agree more. January Jones has demonstrated the ability to be Grace Kelly beautiful and to be able to portray characters where a flat delivery can be interpreted in ways that suit the plot. Reminds me of Andie MacDowell in sex, lies and videotape - if you can build a story where her huge limitations as an actress can be used to benefit the character, great. Emma Frost doesn’t strike me as that kind of character.

In terms of who could - the first that comes to mind is [Tricia Helfer](http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS388US389&q=tricia+helfer&biw=994&bih=796). Another is a bit-younger [Natasha Henstridge](http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS388US389&q=natasha+henstridge&biw=994&bih=796).

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/12 "2011-01-21T17:43:48Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Can someone give me the 411 on Azarel? He was after my time and Wikipedia says that he’s a mutant demon who was Nighcrawler’s dad. Was he an X-Man? Is his story as lame as it sounds on wiki? Nightcrawler was cool in the 80’s, does he totally suck now because of this?

No, he wasn’t an X-Man.

Yes, the story (The Draco) was lame. _Lamer_ than Wiki makes it seem. See Also: The entire rest of Austen’s run. (Look up the Evil Communion Wafer Rapture, for more of his screwing with Kurt.)

And, no, Kurt survived Austen. He’s currently dead…but he was cool right up until his death!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/13 "2011-01-21T18:02:08Z")

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The photos don’t look bad, so much as they look like a promotion for a _TV show_ like Babylon 5 or a new Star Trek.

Until I determined that X-Men First Class was a movie, not a TV show, I was thinking it looked pretty promising.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/14 "2011-01-21T18:03:38Z")

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Going to be beyond lame. This is going to suck like a Hoover on steroids.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/15 "2011-01-21T23:47:30Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Yes, the story (The Draco) was lame. _Lamer_ than Wiki makes it seem. See Also: The entire rest of Austen’s run. (Look up the Evil Communion Wafer Rapture, for more of his screwing with Kurt.)

And the bloody parrot-wolves. And Angel having flying sex with Husk in front of her parents.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/16 "2011-01-22T00:52:22Z")

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Sooooo gonna suck…of course, they CAN’T go back and make the comics continuity First Class. They’ve already made Bobby a young’un in the modern timeframe, so Iceman is out.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/17 "2011-01-22T03:36:26Z")

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Is it just me, or does Xavier look like the youngest one in that image?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/18 "2011-01-22T06:32:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is it just me, or does Xavier look like the youngest one in that image?

It’s not just you. Until I actually read the photo’s caption I thought the guy on the far left was Xavier.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/19 "2011-01-23T01:34:58Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Sooooo gonna suck…of course, they CAN’T go back and make the comics continuity First Class. They’ve already made Bobby a young’un in the modern timeframe, so Iceman is out.

They could if they did it as a reboot instead of part of the messy convoluted movie continuity.

As is, I now have 0 interest in watching this mess.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-the-first-look/568413/20 "2011-01-23T02:47:59Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> That’s a lot of work to make a lot of pictures that aren’t “official,” if they are indeed manipulated images.

I saw some cool photoshops of Chris Evans as Captain America that were completely fake. Never underestimate the time and care a die-hard fan will devote to fan art. Xavier in this picture looks more like Andrew McCarthy circa _Pretty in Pink_ than James McAvoy post _Wanted_.
