# X-Men First Class (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 3, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175 "2011-06-03T08:19:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/21 "2011-06-05T22:02:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Just to save anybody the trouble, there’s nothing after the credits. Disappointment. yeah, and I _really_ had to pee! ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/22 "2011-06-05T22:11:59Z")
This was my favorite X-Men. The first was OK, but I thought the second and third sucked - opting to add more and more characters rather than an interesting plot. This one did a nice balance between several characters and a plot. I have to say - except for his methods - I tend to side with Magneto in all of the movies. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/23 "2011-06-05T22:12:29Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Knowing nothing of the comics, and having only seen the movies, I thought Frost came off well. She’s quite unemotional, and we know Jones can pull that off no problem. Whether that’s in line with the comic books, I have no idea, but it worked well in the movie to me. It is. She’s got rather an ice queen persona at the best of times. When using her diamond form, she’s literally emotionless. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/24 "2011-06-05T22:29:45Z")
Oh, and there’s no Lee cameo. I’m probably the only one that didn’t know this, since I don’t follow his Twitter. \>.\< Apparantly he wasn’t asked. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/25 "2011-06-05T23:27:04Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > It is. She’s got rather an ice queen persona at the best of times. When using her diamond form, she’s literally emotionless. She lacked the snark of comics Frost though. She didn’t put anybody down in a way that utterly destroyed them. Part of that was the writing but to be honest I thought January Jones was phoning it in. The only thing that really irritated me was Beast turning blue wasn’t a result of a secondary mutation but instead him trying to make himself “normal”. Didn’t like that one bit. As an X-Men reader I’m not a proper fanboy, getting irritated at small changes to backstory and whatnot, but that one just felt wrong to me. All in all, very good I thought. Oh and whoever it was having naughty thoughts about Beast/kid from About a Boy, check out the first two series of “Skins” (the UK version, not the MTV abomination). He plays the lead in that and very good he is too. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/26 "2011-06-05T23:47:16Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > The only thing that really irritated me was Beast turning blue wasn’t a result of a secondary mutation but instead him trying to make himself “normal”. Didn’t like that one bit. As an X-Men reader I’m not a proper fanboy, getting irritated at small changes to backstory and whatnot, but that one just felt wrong to me. He turned blue because his “cure” set off his secondary mutation. All in all I greatly enjoyed it, although I was ready to hate it. I do believe the Mutant Registration Act needs to be passed though. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/27 "2011-06-06T00:18:34Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > He turned blue because his “cure” set off his secondary mutation. That’s not the impression I got about fours ago when I was watching the scene in the cinema. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/28 "2011-06-06T00:21:33Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > That’s not the impression I got about fours ago when I was watching the scene in the cinema. Damn. I watched it 6 hours ago so those extra two hours must have really thrown me off. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/29 "2011-06-06T00:32:49Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Damn. I watched it 6 hours ago so those extra two hours must have really thrown me off. I fully accept I could be wrong, but the way Hank explained it made it sound more like a unexpected reaction to the serum rather than a secondary mutation. I’m 95% sure he didn’t use the word mutation to describe it at least. But I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/30 "2011-06-06T00:33:51Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Damn. I watched it 6 hours ago so those extra two hours must have really thrown me off. No they didnt. He clearly says something to the effect that the “cure” just released his true mutation, rather than being the cause of it. Makes sense when you link it with the theme of Hank and Mystique showing their “true” forms. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/31 "2011-06-06T00:38:09Z")
If I remember my X-Men correctly, Mystique is Nightcrawler’s mother, no? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/32 "2011-06-06T00:43:45Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > If I remember my X-Men correctly, Mystique is Nightcrawler’s mother, no? Mystique and Azazel (the teleporter in XM:FC) are his parents, revealed in Chuck Austen’s much hated Uncanny X-Men story “The Draco”. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/33 "2011-06-06T00:44:37Z")
I recognized young Storm when Xavier was using Cerebro, but din’t really recognize any others. Any others? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/34 "2011-06-06T00:45:58Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I recognized young Storm when Xavier was using Cerebro, but din’t really recognize any others. Any others? Good question. I’m pretty much in the same boat. One of the comic book blogs must have done a rundown. To the Google machine! ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/35 "2011-06-06T01:01:20Z")
Again, I’m not a big Marvel fan or anything, but in the movie I was presuming/wondering if the ‘cure’ was actually erasing his humanity. The point was to ‘attack’ the parts that weren’t right, or some such; since mutants are more ‘evolved’, it seemed to make sense that it ‘attacked’ the human part, since it was a lesser form. Probably way the hell off but it worked for me. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/36 "2011-06-06T01:02:47Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Again, I’m not a big Marvel fan or anything, but in the movie I was presuming/wondering if the ‘cure’ was actually erasing his humanity. The point was to ‘attack’ the parts that weren’t right, or some such; since mutants are more ‘evolved’, it seemed to make sense that it ‘attacked’ the human part, since it was a lesser form. > > Probably way the hell off but it worked for me. 😛 I shall revisit the scene when I get it on BluRay in no doubt about six months. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/37 "2011-06-06T01:51:28Z")
Hank said something about “the serum didn’t attack the genes . . . it strengthened them”. It’s hard to keep track of all the retcons in the comics, but at one point they said that his blueness was the result of some lab experiment gone awry. So the movie wasn’t that different from the comics. (Aside from being about a decade too early.) I sort of like the way they re-wrote the origin of Xavier’s paraplegia. I don’t really like the way they re-wrote Moira MacTaggert’s backstory. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/38 "2011-06-06T02:14:26Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > It’s hard to keep track of all the retcons in the comics, but at one point they said that his blueness was the result of some lab experiment gone awry. So the movie wasn’t that different from the comics. (Aside from being about a decade too early.) IIRC, the original comic-book explanation was that he’d whipped up a serum intended to _ **increase** _ his mutation – because he’d stumbled across some questionable goings-on at his new employer’s place, and felt like investigating but suddenly realized that he could lie low a lot easier when he was living at a private academy in between having civilians mostly watch the winged guy and the ice man – because when it’s _ **only** _ the husky superhero with slightly oversized hands and feet who shows up to fight crime and save lives, your husky co-worker with slightly oversized hands and feet kinda stands out in retrospect, y’know? And so he dosed himself, planning to go back to normal in short order, but waited a little too long, and suddenly his change wasn’t so reversible any more… ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/39 "2011-06-06T04:02:08Z")
I thought it was great fun, a worthy successor to the first two, better than the third (which I didn’t hate). Does anyone know who played the captain of the US ship near the end? He was very familiar. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/40 "2011-06-06T04:10:00Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > And so he dosed himself, planning to go back to normal in short order, but waited a little too long, and suddenly his change wasn’t so reversible any more… And then his fur, originally grey turned blue for no known reason (possibly retconned as secondary mutation, but I don’t think so). When he got a PROPER secondary mutation, he went from ape-like to feline. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175.md?page=3)