# X-Men First Class (unboxed spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 3, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175 "2011-06-03T08:19:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
**Page:** 8

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/141 "2012-12-03T21:48:01Z")

</div>

Eh, I’m actually pretty tired of Wolverine. Give someone else the limelight. I know, he brings the money…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/142 "2012-12-04T01:22:29Z")

</div>

> [@Bakhesh](#):
>
> I read last week Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan and Hugh Jackman had all been cast in the new movie, and I must admit, this has piqued my interest a little. It sounds like they are attempting to do what you are suggesting. It’s ambitious, but I’ll be impressed if they manage pull it off

Yes, indeed – I read the same thing, and damn me if I’m not intrigued. I’m trying not to think too much about what they might have planned, to be honest, because I’m beginning to entertain the thought of considering the possibility of being pleasantly surprised.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/143 "2012-12-04T02:36:46Z")

</div>

> [@WotNot](#):
>
> Yes, indeed – I read the same thing, and damn me if I’m not intrigued. I’m trying not to think too much about what they might have planned, to be honest, because I’m beginning to entertain the thought of considering the possibility of being pleasantly surprised.

Well it’s called Days of Future Past - which is the same name of one of the most popular X-Men stories ever. Not that they’ll adapt it 100%, but it’s clear the type of story they’re going to tell if you’re at all familiar with X-Men comics.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/144 "2012-12-04T02:41:57Z")

</div>

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
>
> Eh, I’m actually pretty tired of Wolverine. Give someone else the limelight. I know, he brings the money…

True, but bear in mind, he had about five seconds of screen time in First Class:

Charles & Eric walk into a bar. Wolverine is at the bar, drinking.  
Charles & Eric walk up behind Wolverine.  
Charles: “Hello, there, we’re…”  
Wolverine: “Go fuck yourselves.”  
Charles & Eric leave the bar.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/145 "2012-12-04T09:04:01Z")

</div>

> [@drastic\_quench](#):
>
> Well it’s called Days of Future Past - which is the same name of one of the most popular X-Men stories ever. Not that they’ll adapt it 100%, but it’s clear the type of story they’re going to tell if you’re at all familiar with X-Men comics.

I think I’m reasonably familiar with them – of course, it is over thirty years since I bought _The Uncanny X-Men_ #141–42, but I have them next to me here if I need to check any details 😉

What _type_ of story it will be is clear enough, it’s the _details_ that have the potential to be interesting. (And I’ll play safe and put the next bit in spoilers, because, although the comic’s three decades old, the movie hasn’t even been made yet.)

[spoiler]The outline of the plot from the comics is broadly the same as _The Terminator_ (though it pre-dates it): a lone member of the resistance travels back in time from a robot-ravaged future to prevent the events that caused that future to happen.

What the casting suggests for the movie, though, is that instead of a character traveling from a previously-unseen “future” to the “present”, someone may be going from the already-familiar “present” of the first three X-Men movies to the “past” of _X-Men: First Class_. And considering that the event that needed to be prevented in the comics was the death of Senator Kelly – who, in the film universe, died in the first movie – there seems to be a chance that this new film may wipe the first three movies from continuity altogether.

Which would be a clever idea, in terms of further exploitation of the franchise – instead of subsequent First Class movies having to conform to what had been established in the earlier films, they would have an entirely clear field.[/spoiler]

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/146 "2013-02-05T01:08:09Z")

</div>

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
>
> Why can Banshee fly carrying a full-sized man by one hand, but he can’t fly with golf ball sized hole in his wing?.

> [@Alessan](#):
>
> Dunno. We should try putting him on a treadmill.  
> .

Years later, reading this thread while watching the film…this surely did make me laugh.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/147 "2013-02-05T01:59:02Z")

</div>

Hey, I just want to know how Banshee can fly without completely deafening Havoc.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175/148 "2013-10-27T03:52:18Z")

</div>

I just saw this yesterday, and thought it was pretty damn good.

Every single part of the movie with “Erik Lehnsherr, Nazi Hunter” was awesome, from his expanded origin story through his trip to South America to his final revenge against Shaw.

Of the new recruits, Havok was the one that stood out for me. Darwin died early, Beast was better before he turned blue, Angel was meh and Banshee was goofy-bad when he wasn’t being mistreated by Erik. But Havok, he was like the anti-Banshee - he looked cool, sounded cool and his superpower made him a living plasma cannon instead of requiring that he scream like a little girl.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-men-first-class-unboxed-spoilers/584175.md?page=7)
