# X-rays created by fission stage of a hydrogen bomb?

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**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [May 30, 2019, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-rays-created-by-fission-stage-of-a-hydrogen-bomb/834761 "2019-05-30T11:38:32Z")
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### Author: ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-rays-created-by-fission-stage-of-a-hydrogen-bomb/834761/21 "2019-05-31T13:27:25Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> You’re thinking of Cherenkov radiation. [Bremsstrahlung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung) is just radiation from charged particles that are accelerated, e.g. when a high energy electron is deflected as it nears an atomic nucleus.

d’oh! :smack:

So the electrons do most (all) of it, because they accelerate more?

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### Author: ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)
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> [@Chronos](#):
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> All sorts of distributions of energy are possible, only one of which is thermal. Most other distributions don’t have names, but one that does is a monochromatic source, in which all of the photons have the same energy (at least, approximately). Another one commonly encountered is a line source, which is basically a mix of a small number of monochromatic sources.
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> You can have thermal radiation anywhere in the spectrum. It’s just that, after some point, the temperatures become impractical for many purposes. A thermal X-ray source will have a temperature of a million degrees or so; a thermal microwave source will only be a few degrees above absolute zero. But both exist (and in fact the most perfect thermal spectrum we’ve ever observed is in the microwave range-- the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation).

So what is an example of a non-thermal x-ray source?

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-rays-created-by-fission-stage-of-a-hydrogen-bomb/834761/23 "2019-05-31T14:39:49Z")

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-rays-created-by-fission-stage-of-a-hydrogen-bomb/834761/24 "2019-05-31T14:46:47Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> So what is an example of a non-thermal x-ray source?

[X-ray tube.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_tube) Most medical X-ray & CT machines have some type of X-ray tube.

[Synchrotron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron).

[Characteristic X-ray](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteristic_X-ray).

Radioactive isotopes. (Though technically that’s a type of characteristic X-ray emission. When a nucleus decays, the electrons readjust to the orbits of the new element, and the excess energy can be emitted as a characteristic X-ray.)

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-rays-created-by-fission-stage-of-a-hydrogen-bomb/834761/25 "2019-05-31T14:56:46Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> So the electrons do most (all) of it, because they accelerate more?

Yes. They are moving faster to begin with, and when they collide with ions, they are deflected (accelerated) by a larger amount because they are _much_ lighter than ions. Even a bare proton is 2000x heavier than an electron.

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### Author: ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)
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> [@scr4](#):
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> [X-ray tube.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_tube) Most medical X-ray & CT machines have some type of X-ray tube.
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> [Synchrotron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron).
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> [Characteristic X-ray](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteristic_X-ray).
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> Radioactive isotopes. (Though technically that’s a type of characteristic X-ray emission. When a nucleus decays, the electrons readjust to the orbits of the new element, and the excess energy can be emitted as a characteristic X-ray.)

Thanks, that helps. Would x-rays created from a Coolidge tube be considered thermal, whereas those created by a Crooke’s tube would not?

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#### Post date: [May 31, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x-rays-created-by-fission-stage-of-a-hydrogen-bomb/834761/27 "2019-05-31T18:14:28Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> Thanks, that helps. Would x-rays created from a Coolidge tube be considered thermal, whereas those created by a Crooke’s tube would not?

They both use electric fields to accelerate the electrons towards the target, so they are both non-thermal.

What matters is the energy distribution of electrons hitting the target. If you just had a hot filament next to a target, with no electrical field, then that would be thermal emission. Except you’d have to heat the filament to several million degrees to generate fast enough electrons to generate X-rays.

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