# X2- the uncanny SPOILER thread!

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**Created:** [May 2, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594 "2003-05-02T10:57:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starbury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Starbury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starbury)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/261 "2003-05-12T04:06:16Z")

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I think that Stryker’s son was supposed to be Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) as someone mentioned on page one of this thread. In the comics, he used his illusions to make himself appear more attractive – he didn’t have that breathing apparatus like in the movie, but he did look like a freak – and eventually was able to turn Jean Grey into Dark Phoenix. So I think he’ll be in the third movie.

The only other character I can think that Stryker’s son is based on is Legion (Xavier’s son in the comics)…he has two different colored eyes, but his powers are a little different.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/262 "2003-05-12T08:04:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Nichol\_storm \*  
> \*\*Recheck the first movie. In the big standoff scene at the train station, Prof.X can’t affect Magneto because he’s wearing the helmet. He can control Toad and Sabretooth, but has no influence on Mags. So the helmet is designed to block telepathy. \*\*

No, to block Cerebro - but since Xavier using Cerebro is the most powerful telepath imaginable, it blocks all other telepathy as well.  
Blocking Xavier with the helmet is like using a nuclear bomb to knock down a wall - it works, but it wasn’t designed for that purpose.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/263 "2003-05-12T08:08:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Skeezix \*  
> \*\*Unless I’ve missed a lot (and revisionism in the comics being what it is, it’s entirely possible, _but_…) this is purely a movie invention, I think. \*\*

I suspect you may be right. Maybe it came out when Magneto led the X-Men for a time.

OTOH, it not only explains Cerebro but also why the whole of Xavier’s underground facility seems to be made of metal; rather than pay for enormously expensive and intrusive construction work, Magneto built it.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/264 "2003-05-12T08:10:11Z")

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I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere so…

Was the kid with the glasses also in the first movie, or am I imagining it? I’m thinking he’s the kid with teleportation ability who cheats when playing basketball during Prof Xavier’s intro of the “school” to Wolverine. Not that this actually identifies who he is, I’m just curious.

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**Author:** ![Iteki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/eada6e/32.png) [@Iteki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iteki)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/265 "2003-05-12T11:57:29Z")

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Everyone keeps talking about “Jasons respirator” and “breathing aparatus” etc. Surely the pipes we saw are the draining pipes to extract the serum from his brain? They are nowhere near his nose or mouth, they appear to go into the back of his head. I kept waiting for Magneto to pull the nice shiny metal out of Jasons head :shudder:

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/266 "2003-05-12T13:01:44Z")

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> I could it more difficult to believe that he could capture a teleporting mutant and somehow convince him to hatch a plan to infiltrate the White House and attempt to kill the President (and then forget the whole thing).

Nightcrawler has no special defences. One sniper tranq dart and wham! Lights out. drug him silly and the fuzzy blue boy ain’t goin noplace.

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> The first is that it disappears into his head at a point where the skull is perhaps 1/4" below the surface, and the bullet isn’t compacted that much. The second is that at the angle he was shot, the bullet should have caromed upwards off his skull. The third is that you hear this happen.

Does anyone here think that perhaps there is just a little too much analysis goign on here? Geez, lets dissassemble the movie till it breaks, now. Maybe I’ll try an analyze your life sometime and annoy you by constantly harping on all your inconsistancies.

I understand the instinct, but the answers are usually there if you stop a minute and think about it. More importantly, it seems like it kind of gets silly after a while. Its one thing to ask about some background. Its another to demand flawless consistancy of a fantasy/conspiracy/action movie.

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/267 "2003-05-12T13:11:17Z")

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> I think that Stryker’s son was supposed to be Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) … So I think he’ll be in the third movie.

Not unless he’s both impervious to falling concrete and can breathe water. Unless I missed it, I didn’t see anyone carrying him out of the collapsing Cerebro and soon-to-be submerged base.

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**Author:** ![Nichol\_storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Nichol\_storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nichol_storm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/268 "2003-05-16T02:58:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Starbury \*  
> \*\*I think that Stryker’s son was supposed to be Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) as someone mentioned on page one of this thread. In the comics, he used his illusions to make himself appear more attractive – he didn’t have that breathing apparatus like in the movie, but he did look like a freak – and eventually was able to turn Jean Grey into Dark Phoenix. So I think he’ll be in the third movie.
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> The only other character I can think that Stryker’s son is based on is Legion (Xavier’s son in the comics)…he has two different colored eyes, but his powers are a little different. \*\*

I think Jason Stryker is an amalgamation of several different characters, including:

1. Jason Wyngarde, aka Mastermind, who lent his first name and powers.

2. In “God Loves, Man Kills”, the graphic novel the movie is loosely based off of, Rev. William Stryker murders his newborn son when he discovers the baby is a mutant. The movie transformed him from a bigoted preacher into a bigoted colonel and his son into Jason Stryker.

3. In the comics, the original creator of the Sentinels (mutant-hunting robots) hated mutants but secretly had a mutant son. Sound familiar?

4. Legion, Prof. X’s immensely powerful autistic son with MPD. Some physical traits were borrowed (namely the differently-colored eyes) and the failed parental relationship between Xavier and Jason.

Just my $00.02.

.:Nichol:.

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**Author:** ![Nichol\_storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Nichol\_storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nichol_storm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/269 "2003-05-16T02:58:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Starbury \*  
> \*\*I think that Stryker’s son was supposed to be Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) as someone mentioned on page one of this thread. In the comics, he used his illusions to make himself appear more attractive – he didn’t have that breathing apparatus like in the movie, but he did look like a freak – and eventually was able to turn Jean Grey into Dark Phoenix. So I think he’ll be in the third movie.
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> The only other character I can think that Stryker’s son is based on is Legion (Xavier’s son in the comics)…he has two different colored eyes, but his powers are a little different. \*\*

I think Jason Stryker is an amalgamation of several different characters, including:

1. Jason Wyngarde, aka Mastermind, who lent his first name and powers.

2. In “God Loves, Man Kills”, the graphic novel the movie is loosely based off of, Rev. William Stryker murders his newborn son when he discovers the baby is a mutant. The movie transformed him from a bigoted preacher into a bigoted colonel and his son into Jason Stryker.

3. In the comics, the original creator of the Sentinels (mutant-hunting robots) hated mutants but secretly had a mutant son. Sound familiar?

4. Legion, Prof. X’s immensely powerful autistic son with MPD. Some physical traits were borrowed (namely the differently-colored eyes) and the failed parental relationship between Xavier and Jason.

Just my $00.02.

.:Nichol:.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/270 "2003-05-16T03:27:20Z")

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Thanks, **Nichol**. That’s the one loose end that’s been bugging me the most. And I can’t find that graphic novel, everyone’s sold out. Been looking on eBay, too. Oh well, one day…

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**Author:** ![Nichol\_storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Nichol\_storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nichol_storm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/271 "2003-05-16T03:34:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Thanks, **Nichol**. That’s the one loose end that’s been bugging me the most. And I can’t find that graphic novel, everyone’s sold out. Been looking on eBay, too. Oh well, one day… \*\*

Glad I could be of help. Looks like Amazon doesn’t have any copies of “God Loves, Man Kills” either, sorry. It’s a damn good story, one of my favorites, and well worth hunting down.

.:Nichol:.

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**Author:** ![GrandfatherTrout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@GrandfatherTrout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandfatherTrout)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/272 "2003-05-16T05:10:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Thanks, **Nichol**. That’s the one loose end that’s been bugging me the most. And I can’t find that graphic novel, everyone’s sold out. Been looking on eBay, too. Oh well, one day… \*\*

Get thee to a comic shop! I saw a new reprint edition on the racks at my local store…last week? The week before? It’s in a standard comic-book size, rather than the original graphic-novel size.

At any rate, it’s been reprinted.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/273 "2003-05-16T05:15:12Z")

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Those bastards! I just asked them about two weeks ago!

[ussing my mutant powers to find VISA check card so I can run on over during lunch tomorrow]

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/274 "2003-05-16T09:45:38Z")

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I have probably been somewhat negligent in not posting again to a thread I started, but I’ve really enjoyed all that’s been said here. I’ve been reading X-titles since the beginning of Excalibur (which I found on the comics rack at my local railway station ye many moons ago). and yet I’ve learnt a LOT with this thread.

Anyhoo, I’m de-lurking to say this is the first thread I’ve ever started and it’s now had 6740 views!

Yay! go me!

/self agrandising mode off.  
Ego Gene (plus)

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/275 "2003-05-16T15:04:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil Death \*  
> \*\*\<cough cough\>
> 
> AKA Sprite at this stage in her career, if you don’t mind.
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> If you need me, I’ll be over here geeking with the homies… \*\*

Or, uh… Ariel. I think she had THAT name for about one issue.

We never really got a good look at her in this movie, but is she played by the same actress as the Kitty in X-Men 1?

Ah, IMDB to the rescue. It’s NOT the same actress. A shame, 'cause I liked the look of the first Kitty.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/276 "2003-05-16T17:35:00Z")

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Someone mentioned this earlier, I think, but I am not going to go back to look for it. Did anyone else think the President might be a mutant? When Prof-X attacks all the humans, we see the President reacting, but doesn’t he look a little “forced?” Also, when Stryker asks for the ok to take out the mansion, the Presdient seems awfully concerned about the mutant children, and then there is the problem he has with the language of the speach. I suppose Prof-X would know if he was a mutant or not, but maybe the good President has been getting by as a normal human…I have seen the movie twice, and I think there is something going on with him. Maybe he is just supposed to be ambivalent about the mutant ‘problem’, thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/277 "2003-05-16T18:32:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lightnin’ \*
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> \<Kitty Pryde\>
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> \*\*We never really got a good look at her in this movie, but is she played by the same actress as the Kitty in X-Men 1?
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> Ah, IMDB to the rescue. It’s NOT the same actress. A shame, 'cause I liked the look of the first Kitty. \*\*

That girl does keep getting recast. She was the original Cassandra in Stargate SG-1, too.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/278 "2003-05-16T19:00:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Terrifel \*  
> **to provide some vaguely defined sexual tension, and then get captured. He’s becoming the Daphne of the X-Men.**

Wouldn’t that actually make him the Robin of the X-Men?

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> \*Originally posted by Stonebow \*  
> **anybody else wondering if maybe the files given to the president at the end of the movie hints that either he, or someone close to him, may be a mutant?  
> 'i don’t respond well to threats’**

“You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.” 😃 [sup]—Bill Bixby for President![/sup]

Excellent movie. Big fun. Loved how everybody was given something to do - an extreme rarity in stories with such large ensembles.

And how great for the further geekification of my wife. She knew nothing about Kurt, but is now a wholehearted Nightcrawler fan. “He’s my favorite!”

One question, is he scarified in the comics? I’ve only seen maybe 2 issues with him and don’t remember seeing it. And let me say how nice to see a very devout Catholic portrayed so wholesomely! 🙂

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/279 "2003-05-16T22:16:24Z")

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Wow, finally found this thread. So much to say!

First a general point. Why anyone is discussing Uncanny X-Men continuity for anything other than curiosity purposes is beyond me. The movie quite obviously has created an entirely new continuity, with some characters retaining more of their character (Cyclops, Magneto) than others (like Pyro, who might as well be unique to the movie’s continuity). We can certainly make conjectures about their powers and so on based on history from the books, but if anything we know from the books is contradicted in the movie, and there are a lot of things that are, that doesn’t make the movie wrong. Speaking for myself, the only way I could enjoy this movie was taking it that way; it obviously was not a movie ‘version’ of the X-Men that I grew up with (I used to get pissed at the cartoons as a kid because they mixed everything up, would have enjoyed them more if I thought of them as totally separate). Sorry, that’s just my personal grinding-axe.

Oh, another short one: why bother using spoiler boxes in this thread? Huh?

-Regarding iron content in blood: IIRC it’s long been established in the books that there isn’t enough iron in the blood for Magnus to mess with. That’s why he made his debonair magenta and purple suit out of chainmail.

-Regarding the Wolvie bullet. Watching the movie (both times) I had the same gripe. Wouldn’t have penetrated his skull at all. Feel your forehead – how much flesh is there? It would have dinged right off. Minor nitpick to be sure.

-Regarding Gambit, Remy’s name was the only one I noticed on Stryker’s screen the first time I watched the movie. The second time I made sure to look further down and I saw Dani and Jamie. I also noticed a couple of the other folders on his desktop like the Wideawake one and a few others that I couldn’t remember afterwards. I don’t think this means in any way that Gambit will be in the next movie; I thought it was just one of very many minor touches that were thrown in to make all us fanboys wet our pants, which I duly did.

-I have an original, graphic novel sized, glossy paged version of God Loves, Man Kills. Envy me (should I be selling it on EBay?)

-Regarding Rogue and her Ms. Marvel powers: Why in the world would they incorporate any of that into the next movie? That’s such incidental backstory as far as the movies are concerned, and it’s not like the Rogue character isn’t already completely rewritten. I don’t see any reason to assume that would be included.

-Regarding a post from earlier in this thread (page 3 I think)

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> _Originally posted by **smiling bandit** _  
> Since the other part about was answered, I can respond to this question. Yes and no. There’s never been a clear dividing line between magic, mutant powers/psionics, and super technology in superhero comics. Basically, the Hulk, Spiderman, the X-men, and so forth are all about the same.
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> Its been explicitly said that mutant powers are basically a mental shortcut )psionics) to doing something and bending the universe. Mutants are just born with theirs. Now and then, writers might come up with an “anti-mutant device” which affects only mutants, or a “anti-gamma powers ray” that could stop the Hulk and Reed Richards, but this is pretty rare. In the end, Given the kind of stuff superscience pulls off regularly, altering one’s genetic code to “Mutant” from “Human” wouldn’t be too hard.

This is totally wrong. In _Marvel_ comics, there _has_ in fact always been a clear dividing line. Being genetically altered after birth and being born with a genetic mutation are completely different and are kept totally distinct in the Marvel universe. I have a lot of doubts about the second paragraph, too. Strong Guy is ‘psionically bending the universe’? No. He’s just strong. It’s his genes.

- **FlyingDragonFan** was right about the possibility of Jason being in X3. He was very clearly left to die in the collapsing dam, which absolutely shocked me. Kurt 'ported Storm out of Cerebro2, 'ported back in to get Xavier, and 'ported out again and then left. It was totally ridiculous that he, Xavier, or most of the other X-Men present would have been willing to leave Jason to his death. Thanks to **Nichol\_Storm** for the wonderful explanation of the different influences on the Jason Stryker character in X2. Didn’t leave anything out.

-Thanks also to **Nichol\_Storm** for the link to the screen capture (which I have now… lost…) of Stryker’s computer screen. I knew something like that had to be out there somewhere.

- **RickJay** , **Deptford** , regarding Wolvie’s origins, in the books the Weapon X program is repeatedly shown to be a Canadian military secret program. I was slightly miffed that they rewrote that to be American for the movie, but you do what you gotta. So whatever flashbacks they showed in the movie are totally made up for movie continuity (although the flashbacks they showed in X2 I thought captured perfectly the sense of those times that’s been portrayed forever in the books).

- **gex gex** : And Nightcrawler too 😉

- **Sol Grundy** : Back off, pal. Famke is _my_ girl. And at least I can spell her name right! Famke JansSen. God. Could she have been hotter? I’ve always liked her, but she has never looked better. And I finally realized why they cast James Marsden: He is a stiff and a pretty boy, just like Scott, and he’s taller than Famke (she’s 5’11", he’s 6’1"). Should have cast me, though, to get the height differential a little more accurately.

-Regarding ‘bamf’: How anyone can complain about this is beyond me. I thought they absolutely freaking _nailed_ the ‘bamf.’ Nightcrawler made me wet my pants. He was so good. I was worried about Alan Cumming too, especially after the first few character schematics they released for Kurt that made him look like a clown, but he was just so perfect in the movie. Perfect. Even worked in the mix of humility and self-hate with optimism and boisteriousness that characterizes him in the books. And he’s a ladies man! Storm was on _the nuts_! Good match if you ask me.

And finally, the thing that I’ve been thinking about most of all: The Phoenix. **Number Six** and I discussed it a bit in another thread, and I really don’t think they’re going to introduce the Phoenix Force. How could they? Think they’re going to go into the Professor getting wounded, getting taken by the Shi’ar (Magneto running the school in the meantime, plus the New Mutants), the X-Men getting caught up by the SpellJammers, the M’Kraan crystal, (I forgot the name of the Shi’ar chick that loved Xavier), her brother going power mad, the clone under the sea, the Phoenix Force falling in love with Scott, Maddy Pryor, _Rachel Summers_, the Professor walking again (and then _not_ walking again) X-Force, blah, blah blah… no. How much of that would have to be included? Too much.

In my opinion her transformation is going to be totally internal, so they can leave out all that other stuff. I mean, it’s gotta be. But that image under the water near the end of X2… gave me chills for real.  
After the movie I was speculating as to what X3 would look like. I kind of wanted there to be Sentinels, but I’m not sure how that could work given Magnus’ strong presence in the movies. In the books whenever the Sentinels rolled around he was usually off doing something else, or couldn’t be bothered, or was indirectly involved somehow, but any time he was directly involved he would both toss the robots around and make fun of whoever thought it would be a good idea to attack him with giant metal things. Obviously he’s not going to be a minor character in X3 so I’m not sure how there could be Sentinels unless he gets captured again first or something, or they copout and say they’re giant _plastic_ robots or something which would be weak.

And who will the next crop be? Colossus, I hope. Unlike pretty much everyone, I was _extremely_ disappointed with his role in X2. Personally I thought his transforming shot was really hokey and stupid-looking. The guy they cast to play him was picture-perfect, though. I literally groaned out loud when Wolvie told him to take the kids instead of fighting and he went (even the second time when I knew he was going to do it). I wanted to see him kick some butt. So hopefully he’ll be a bigger part of X3. And Kitty too.  
So that’s what I have to say. I’ve been looking for this thread (hey, you try searching for ‘X2’) for a while so I had a lot to say… and of course I had to respond to like every single other post here, heh. All in all, the movie totally rocked. I didn’t think it was that great as a movie, the pacing was a little off and the storyline could have been a lot more compelling (like somebody said… doomsday device, bleh. There was really never any tension in the plot, all the tension was character driven, but they kept cutting that back to focus on the boring plot), but as an experience it was fully incredible. The coolness factor was off the charts and their homage to the X-Men, and the constant tidbits thrown in for the fanboys among us (tv debate between Hank McCoy and ‘Dr. Shaw,’ onscreen for 1 second! Artie! All of it!) were completely and utterly awesome. I only had one or two major gripes, but overall it was just amazing. Uncanny you might say. I watched it twice in two days and might get caught going to see it again.

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They could always do a prequel. :eek:

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