# X2- the uncanny SPOILER thread! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 2, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594 "2003-05-02T10:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Vorae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vorae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vorae)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/121 "2003-05-05T02:20:56Z")
To all the complaints re: James Marsden (IIRC Cyclops)'s lack of acting ability, bear in mind that the character of Cyclops, as written, is very, very lame. He frets about Jean, he clenches his jaw, he serves as a nancy boy punching bag for Logan. Where are his character-building scenes? Why is he fighting this war? I thought he was the leader of the X-Men once. Also, the ending was way too protracted for me. Blah blah, the dam is breaking!, blah blah, the dam is still breaking!, blah blah, the dam is _still_ breaking!, lame sacrifice. (Okay, that last part’s too strong, but I still think some things, including this, should’ve been set up better.) Plus, I can’t believe no one’s mentioned the similarity between this ending and that of _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_. Both involve the semi-senseless self-sacrifice of a beloved high-ranking team member and a denouement in which the dead character recites…well, some kinda previously said intro speech (“Space, the final frontier…” vs. “Mutants, a genetically blah blah”), paving the way for a sequel focused entirely on that resurrected character. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/122 "2003-05-05T02:30:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Vorae \* > \*\*Plus, I can’t believe no one’s mentioned the similarity between this ending and that of _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_. Both involve the semi-senseless self-sacrifice of a beloved high-ranking team member and a denouement in which the dead character recites…well, some kinda previously said intro speech (“Space, the final frontier…” vs. “Mutants, a genetically blah blah”), paving the way for a sequel focused entirely on that resurrected character. \*\* Sorry, but there was nothing senseless about Spock’s self-sacrifice in Star Trek II. ---
**Author:** ![Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/123 "2003-05-05T02:31:45Z")
One last little bit, that I noticed at the time, and completely forgot about until just this moment: Anyone else catch the nod to **Silence of the Lambs**? It was a rather clever scene, I thought. ---
**Author:** ![Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/124 "2003-05-05T02:36:29Z")
**Vorae** : Okay, so there’s _another_ last little bit. Thanks for the memory jog. I did turn to Mrs. Skeezix and say, “X-Men 3: The Search for Phoenix” as the credits started to roll. Guy sitting behind us (with four kids in their early teens) laughed, and was still explaining it as we left the theater. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Vorae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vorae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vorae)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/125 "2003-05-05T02:39:25Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by RikWriter_ > **Sorry, but there was nothing senseless about Spock’s self-sacrifice in Star Trek II.** I should’ve been clearer about this. I meant that it was senseless only in that you see Spock’s hands moving through the light, and yet you don’t actually _know_ what he’s doing, except that he’s saving the ship in a way that, apparently, no one else can. But they set it up expertly, so it works. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/126 "2003-05-05T04:08:33Z")
I thought the deal in _ST2:TWoK_ was that **anybody** could have made the repairs, but (A) whoever did would absorb a lethal dose of radiation, and (B) Vulcan physiology is tougher and so Spock would be able to work on the warp reactor longer before the radiation overcame him. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/127 "2003-05-05T04:21:10Z")
“The needs of the many outweigh…” “…the needs of the few.” “Or the one.” [dies] [_sniff_] ---
**Author:** ![Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/128 "2003-05-05T04:25:31Z")
He’s dead, Jim. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/129 "2003-05-05T04:30:38Z")
_Remember._ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/130 "2003-05-05T04:31:18Z")
What if the prophecies are true? What if Neo is The One™? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/131 "2003-05-05T04:32:47Z")
I am not left handed! ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/132 "2003-05-05T04:58:22Z")
another list of people on the computer screne: > [@](#): > > Keniucho Harada: Silver Samurai > Garrison Kane: Weapon X > Remy Lebeau: Gambit > Xi’an Coy Mahn: Karma > Maximoff (2): Pietro Mximoff (Quicksilver) & Wanda Maximoff (The Scarlet Witch) > Kevin Mctaggart: Proteus > Danielle Moonstar: Psyche > Ororo Munroe: Storm (borrowed from Serak on the SA forums, complete with screne cap) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/133 "2003-05-05T05:32:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skeezix \* > \*\*One last little bit, that I noticed at the time, and completely forgot about until just this moment: > > Anyone else catch the nod to **Silence of the Lambs**? > > \*\* Uh…no. [shuffles feet] What was it? ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/134 "2003-05-05T05:50:06Z")
[Aside] Ack, **Rilchiam** ’s postcount is 6666! He’s _10 times_ more evil than the Devil! [/Aside] ---
**Author:** ![d\_redguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@d\_redguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d_redguy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/135 "2003-05-05T05:56:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Narrad \* > \*\*[Aside] > > Ack, **Rilchiam** ’s postcount is 6666! He’s _10 times_ more evil than the Devil! > > [/Aside] \*\* Actually, he is approximately 10.01 times more evil. Every last bit of evil counts! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/136 "2003-05-05T05:57:36Z")
I’m a she. And this will get my post count out of the danger zone. (Quite honestly, I stopped keeping track after I hit 4K.) ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/137 "2003-05-05T06:12:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Vorae \* > \*\* > Plus, I can’t believe no one’s mentioned the similarity between this ending and that of _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan_. \*\* KHAAAAAAAAAAANNNN! ---
**Author:** ![seriousart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@seriousart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seriousart)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/138 "2003-05-05T06:22:27Z")
Here’s my questions: Doesn’t nightcrawler have to seriously rest if he Bamf’s more than just himself? And is he really that religious in the comics? I don’t recall that at all. And for the record, Collosus not being russian bugged me, and I really wanted to hear “bamf”, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/139 "2003-05-05T06:30:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by seriousart \* > \*\*and I really wanted to hear “bamf”, dammit! \*\* Huh? When I saw it, he was “BAMF”-ing all over the place. The sfx were about as close to “BAMF” as I could’ve imagined. It didn’t stand out – the visual effects overshadowed it – but it was appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594/140 "2003-05-05T07:23:57Z")
Just got back from seeing it a seocnd time, and I noticed a few extra things I didn’t before: Anotgher file on the computer, along with Project Wideawake, was called “Omega Red.” I appreciated that reference. My friend pointed this out after I saw it the first time, so I looked for it the second time and kind of saw what he saw: During the damn breaking scenes, there is a shot of the damn with the water almost coming out, but it appears kind of frozen, as if some kind of ice-man froze it. Odds are, they had a scene with him doing it, or planned on it, and didn’t go that route, but kept that shot, maybe to elude to him freezing it to give the people inside moretime, or because they ran out of outside sgots of the damn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/x2-the-uncanny-spoiler-thread/172594.md?page=8)