# XBOX 360 - you in? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 11, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456 "2005-05-11T20:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/1 "2005-05-11T20:57:23Z")
Just curious what all you casual gamer out there were thinking about this new toy. I haven’t been following too many of the press clippings or the insider scoops, but from what I hear it’s expected to be something of a multi-media device. If so I’m pretty eager to get one, if i can wirelessly network it into my MP3 PC and use it record programs in the internal HD I’ll take it! No word on backwards compatability…boo! So whats everyone initial thoughts? Gonna be getting one? What details are you waiting to hear before deciding? Got any dirt to share or silly rumors to spead? this is your thread! [sub]I put it here since it seems to be a psuedo-poll, but if mods prefer it in Cafe Society, feel free to punt away…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/2 "2005-05-11T21:48:54Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > What details are you waiting to hear before deciding? All of them, really. I’ve been considering getting a game platform, and XBOX is probably the most appropriate choice for what I want, but I figured I’d wait for specifics on the new platform to see whether there’s a significant leap in technology. _—crickets—_ _—crickets—_ _—crickets—_ How long are we supposed to wait, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/3 "2005-05-11T22:15:32Z")
Until 9:30 tomorrow night. [See here](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499911/20050411/story.jhtml). ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/4 "2005-05-12T00:58:30Z")
Sneak peek of the console [here.](http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000490042605) One word: \*uggggggggggggggggggggg-ly. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/5 "2005-05-12T01:16:23Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Until 9:30 tomorrow night. [See here](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499911/20050411/story.jhtml). Hey, cool. Ask and you shall receive. Will it be too much to ask for backward compatibility to be part of the Hobbit’s pitch? ---
**Author:** ![Miltonyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Miltonyz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miltonyz)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/6 "2005-05-12T01:46:22Z")
I’m a huge xbox fanboy, so I’ll probably buy it soon after it comes out. I’ll also be watching for it on mtv. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/7 "2005-05-12T02:05:35Z")
I think I’ll use the opportunity to buy an _old_ XBox, as soon as they’re thoroughly obsolete and cost less than $50. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/8 "2005-05-12T02:11:15Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Hey, cool. Ask and you shall receive. > > Will it be too much to ask for backward compatibility to be part of the Hobbit’s pitch? Most likely, yes. The current XBox is Wintel based with an nVIDIA graphics chip and a hard drive. XBOX 360 is ATi graphics on a non-Pentium chip with no HD. For backwards-compatibility to work, they’d have to emulate the original XBOX, and the hardware to do that at full speed is still 18 months away on the PC side. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/9 "2005-05-12T02:12:12Z")
Sadly, I’ll be in. The word is that Madden football will be one of the games availible for it this fall, and that it’s awesome. At some point in the next few months there will be a moment’s nexus of boredom, depression, football fanboyism and several hundred unspent dollars in my hands. I am weak. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/10 "2005-05-12T02:17:59Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > I think I’ll use the opportunity to buy an _old_ XBox, as soon as they’re thoroughly obsolete and cost less than $50. > 😃 And _I’m_ gonna snap up all the cool games which will drop in price as soon as the new one comes out: I figure my old Xbox is good for a few years yet, with the right software. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/11 "2005-05-12T07:54:11Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > I figure my old Xbox is good for a few years yet, with the right software. Hell, I still have fun with NES games under emulation. An XBox should be able to hold me over until Holodecks are ready. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/12 "2005-05-12T11:10:24Z")
Now I think on it, why “360”? It isn’t any technical reference that I can figure out, so is this just a marketing department buzzword? Because if you go, like, 360 degrees you end up facing, y’know, back where you started. ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/13 "2005-05-12T11:35:21Z")
Case: Because ‘Xbox 2’ is one less than ‘Play Station 3’. 😛 I’ll probably hold off til the First dose of early adopters had bought theirs. I’ve got two Xboxes right now. The Good one (untouched by Blank Hands) used for Xbox Live and the Eeeeeeevil Xbox, fully hacked and running Xbox Media Center. It streams movies from the home computer to the home theatre WITHOUT paying a kilobuck tax to Microsoft for the privledge. Rest assured, If you wanna do ALL of the home theatre stuff on your Xbox, you’ll have to pay for software for ANOTHER computer on the Home LAN. (And I’ll probably sock away an unopened $50 Xbox at the right time, too.) ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/14 "2005-05-12T13:44:47Z")
> [@brianjedi](#): > > Most likely, yes. The current XBox is Wintel based with an nVIDIA graphics chip and a hard drive. XBOX 360 is ATi graphics on a non-Pentium chip with no HD. For backwards-compatibility to work, they’d have to emulate the original XBOX, and the hardware to do that at full speed is still 18 months away on the PC side. No HD? Are you sure? I thought there was going to be different ‘levels’ of the 360, one cheap one w/out HD, one medium one with HD, and a bigger one basically designed to replace the DVD player, DVR, and microwave oven, and kill your grandma? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/15 "2005-05-12T14:41:22Z")
I wanna get one of these and find a way to turn it into an HDTV upconverting DVD player…that’d be sweet. Not sure if I’d have to stream the stuff from the desktop or do it native to the XBOX 360…hmmm. I wanna play. I gotta go on record as saying that those new controllers are FUGLY, and they look like they are already outdated by a solid 15 years. They need to go with a brushed silver instead of white for the console and the controllers need to be black or translucent plastic like the current ones IMHO. Are they trying to be IPOD-licious here or something? That’s soooooo 2003. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/16 "2005-05-13T14:10:48Z")
In case you haven’t seen it yet. Here we go [http://www.yahoo.com/\_ylh=X3oDMTExbmFqZHF1BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEdGVzdAN2MjI2BHRtcGwDdjIyNi1pZQ--/s/239953](http://www.yahoo.com/_ylh=X3oDMTExbmFqZHF1BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEdGVzdAN2MjI2BHRtcGwDdjIyNi1pZQ--/s/239953) Looks damn good to me. I like alot of what I’m hearing, lets pray it’s backwards compatible. I’m probably in either way just for the new Madden. ---
**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/17 "2005-05-13T14:13:37Z")
The thing has a beast inside, that’s for sure. 3 3.2 GHz processors? Apparently it also has a hard drive you can remove and take with you to a friend’s house. And the PS3 is supposed to be even more powerful? If these things sell at a decent price, they could become your best bet as a personal computer too, especially once the hacking community gets through with them. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/18 "2005-05-13T15:11:24Z")
> [@Unintentionally Blank](#): > > I’ve got two Xboxes right now. The Good one (untouched by Blank Hands) used for Xbox Live and the Eeeeeeevil Xbox, fully hacked and running Xbox Media Center. That is funny as hell. My buddy, who hosts our weekly gamer night, just got nailed by Xbox Live for having a modded box. (His, uh, “altitude” was “adjusted” at the time, so he spaced that the chip was on. hehheh, we all knew it was only a matter of time.) Microsoft _clearly_ is expected and not caring about the mods. It told him he was banned, but let him keep playing the rest of the night. The next day he picked up another Xbox, and the clean one lets him resume playing with his original account intact – no harm, no foul. The message is loud and clear (5x5): Mod it all you want; we don’t care. All we require is that you have at least one unmodded system to log into Live with. That is an extremely cool stance for them to take. (It’s in their self-interest I know, but they could be real dicks about it if they wanted.) I watched that MTV drivel, and I have to say, that was the lamest 30 minutes I ever sat through. Even still, I’m excited about the new system. While I’m not going to pick one up any time soon, if ever, I’ll guarantee you my buddy will for the next Madden franchise. I can’t wait. ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/19 "2005-05-13T15:18:24Z")
It didn’t hurt that the evil box was purchased for $40 at a used game store, plus $23 for a new DVD drive off ebay. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456/20 "2005-05-13T15:33:21Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > That is funny as hell. My buddy, who hosts our weekly gamer night, just got nailed by Xbox Live for having a modded box. (His, uh, “altitude” was “adjusted” at the time, so he spaced that the chip was on. hehheh, we all knew it was only a matter of time.) > > Microsoft _clearly_ is expected and not caring about the mods. It told him he was banned, but let him keep playing the rest of the night. The next day he picked up another Xbox, and the clean one lets him resume playing with his original account intact – no harm, no foul. > > The message is loud and clear (5x5): Mod it all you want; we don’t care. All we require is that you have at least one unmodded system to log into Live with. That is an extremely cool stance for them to take. (It’s in their self-interest I know, but they could be real dicks about it if they wanted.) > > I watched that MTV drivel, and I have to say, that was the lamest 30 minutes I ever sat through. Even still, I’m excited about the new system. While I’m not going to pick one up any time soon, if ever, I’ll guarantee you my buddy will for the next Madden franchise. I can’t wait. Just curious what the story is here. I’m sorta in the dark about modded X-boxes and what not, but what was the plan? What did that modded X-box do that was worth MS violating his ass? Is it the whole playing copied games thing? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xbox-360-you-in/303456.md?page=2)