andros, you can’t just mention the Hercules/Xena drinking game and not post the rules.
Anything like “Hi Bob” or “Drunk Boat”?
My only problem with the Herc and Xena shows is that, because I know most of the actors from NZ TV, I cringe at their a) awful accents b) terrible acting and c) ridiculous get-up.
But I do that with all NZ actors. We don’t have an especially good selection, to be honest.
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I saw the first episodes of the shows that are replacing Hercules. I didn’t like Cleopatra 2525 one bit. I’m going to withhold judgement and give it a few episodes to develop, but I don’t really think it’s going to last if it stays as bad as the first episode. Now, Jack of All Trades, on the other hand, was fantastic. A classic in the making (of course I’m a HUGE Bruce Campbell fan, so it could suck penguin shit and I wouldn’t care). But, I thought that it was cute and funny, and I’m looking forward to the second episode. The only drawback is now that Bruce is working on his own series, I bet we won’t be seeing any more of Autolycus on Xena 
Anyone else see them? What did ya think?
Sigh . . . you people. I spend a damn year watching the friggin shows to develop the ultimate game, and y’all just want it for free?
Actually, I don’t have a copy handy. But here’s a brief list.
#include <disclaimer.h>
/* the following is not in any way to be construed as condoning the consumption of alcoholic beverages */
One drink
Hercules uses someone as a weapon
Iolaus beats on someone while completely suspended off the ground
That damned “Ay-yi-yi-yi” Xena thing
Anachronisms (Aphrodite wind-surfing, etc)
Shitty puns
Herc spouts touchy-feely crap
Xena talks to her horse (4 drinks if the horse talks back)
Gabrielle babbles
2 drinks
Herc uses a real weapon
Iolaus gets laid
Somebody smacks the shit out of Joxer or Salmoneus
Ares gets a new beard style
Xena uses her frisbee to do something patently ludicrous (i.e. knocking someone unconscious w/o a scratch after cutting through steel plate)
Any lesbian reference in Xena
Ares gives an evil chuckle
We see Aphrodite, Athena, Hades, Poseidon, or some generic made-up-for-the-episode god
Herc loses his shirt
Xean does her Vulcan death-pinch thing
3 drinks
Hercules uses a weapon for its intended purpose
Joxer does something right
Salmoneus gets laid
Xena acts crazy
We see Zeus
Herc gets the shit beaten out of him (double if by the evil anti-Hercules)
Anyone goes to the underworld
Gabrielle doesn’t act like a total twit
4 drinks
Hercules, Xena, Gabrielle, or Joxer get laid
We see Olympus
Joxer saves the day
Xena’s horse saves the day
Any episode not set in the standard fake Ancient Greece (medieval France, California, 1920’s Egypt)–helps kill the pain
The entire bloody Guinness brewery
Xena and Gabrielle get laid, er, simultaneously (if ya know what I mean)
We see Hera (damn, I’m still feeling that last episode)
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That would be “#include disclaimer.h”
The brackets got eaten.
Andros- that’s a riot! Gotta get that copyrighted!
Personally, Kevin Sorbo IS Hercules. He makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
i don’t watch much tv but i think both those shows are a riot & very obviously meant as parody. you would no more expect historical accuracy from them than you would expect good science from ‘buffy the vampire slayer.’
however, i have a question that you who are more familiar w/ the shows might be able to answer. i’ve noticed that several of the actors are listed in the credits as also being production personnel. (there was even one show where kevin disappeared & they had to come up w/ a new hero & everyone played whatever part it showed they had according to the credits, in modern dress.) so, are they actually involved at that level or is that more of the put-on?
I saw a commercial for Beastmaster this morning. It looked horribly cheap and amateurish. If the commercial looked that bad, imagine what the show itself is like! Bleah!
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Beastmaster? I thought that was an old fantasy movie series? (And another, more illegal porn series)
I don’t really watch either show, but if they’re on and the Simpsons isn’t, I’ll sit through them. Especially Xena. What a babe. Just type in Xena on Altavista to get this:
[ul]200+ fan webrings
150+ fanfic webrings
100+ erotica webrings
75+ lesbian erotica fanfic webrings[/ul]
heh
I sold my soul to Satan for a dollar. I got it in the mail.
I am a Xena fan, when the series is at it’s best it is definitely not a children’s show. It can be silly and campy but sometimes it is mature and deadly serious. Such episodes as The Price, Sacrifice 1&2, Maternal Instincts, Is There A Doctor In The House are extremely violent and adult in nature.
BM the series is based upon BM the movie. It does not star Marc Singer, but it’s the same idea, a cross between Conan and Dr. Dolittle.
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Actually, I understand that if you have to sit through Lucy Lawless singing, it’s best if she’s performing the National Anthem. :rolleyes:
Of course truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.
Mark Twain
Actually, Lucy Lawless is a really good singer, even with no nipple exposure.
If you mean do they actually direct some episodes, then yes it’s true. If you mean are some of the one-off characters also sometimes writers or directors, that is also true. However, if you mean something else, I don’t think it will be true.
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guano, 3 of the characters (campbell is one, one is one of the immortal women, don’t remember the other character’s name) are listed as executive producers or assistant exec producers. do you think they really are?
they are pretty creative, wide-ranging folks if so. interesting, too, i think that they would invest so much of themselves in the program.
I believe it was very loosely based on Andre Norton’s book of the same name. And I do mean VERY.
Incidentally, there’s at least two sequels to Chick in Chain Mail. And Maureen Birnbaum has at least one anthology chronicling her adventures.
She’s also damn old!
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But I bet she knows what she’s doing! 
Bitch by Birth
I wasn’t familiar with the Andre Norton book. But I bet one could make a comparison with MASH*: There was first a novel, then there was a movie based on the novel, then there was a TV series based on the movie, then there were two spin-offs (the unfunny failure AfterMASH, the more successful Trapper John, M.D.), based on the TV series. The further one gets from the original, the less resemblance there is to the original. (For instance, IIRC, in the novel and movie, Hawkeye goes home before Trapper John does and Henry Blake is not killed.)
And the movie version of Beastmaster wasn’t all that great, either.
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Yeah, they will be. A lot of shows do that, get the stars in as decision makers. Bruce Campbell is of course one of Sam Raimi’s oldest friends, so it’s no wonder he gets some creative comtrol sometimes. I think Robert Trebor (who plays Salmoneus) is also a behind-the-scenes guy sometimes.
Most of the immortals (Gods and Demi-gods) are New Zealanders, so I don’t expect them to have much in the way of creative control, as the core team are Americans. However, if you’re referring to the wonderful sigh Hudson Leick (Callisto) I have no clue what she does behind the scenes. I could happily stare at her naked abdomen for the rest of my life, though…
Oh, and Beastmaster the TV series is meant to be closer to the book than the movie.
yeah, right.
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