# Xkcd 4-09-12

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312 "2012-04-09T22:32:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/1 "2012-04-09T22:32:19Z")

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I’m falling ever further behind on keeping up with cultural references. What’s the door in the bottom of the ocean and the mouseover supposed to mean?

> **[Lakes and Oceans](https://xkcd.com/1040/)**
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> James Cameron has said that he didn't know its song would be so beautiful. He didn't close the door in time. He's sorry.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/2 "2012-04-09T22:47:55Z")

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[James Cameron dives into the Marianas Trench](http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/mar/26/mariana-trench-james-cameron-mission). The hatch is just a silly fictional reason for him to do so other than publicity.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/3 "2012-04-09T22:59:19Z")

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The forum threat at XKCD has a post suggesting it is something related to Cthulhu but I don’t know if that’s true.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/4 "2012-04-09T23:02:12Z")

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Big error: Lake Michigan is actually deeper than Lake Huron by about 200 feet.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/5 "2012-04-09T23:03:56Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> I’m falling ever further behind on keeping up with cultural references. What’s the door in the bottom of the ocean and the mouseover supposed to mean?  
> [xkcd: Lakes and Oceans](http://xkcd.com/1040/)

Very obscure. Had to go to the forums for an answer.

[You Are a Genius (Choose Your Own Adventure, No 95) [Paperback] by Edward Packard](http://www.amazon.com/You-Genius-Choose-Your-Adventure/dp/0553281550)  
In one of the options, you make a submarine that can travel into challenger’s deep. There, you find a mysterious door, which you enter and the book ends.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/6 "2012-04-09T23:05:26Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Very obscure. Had to go to the forums for an answer.
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> [You Are a Genius (Choose Your Own Adventure, No 95) [Paperback] by Edward Packard](http://www.amazon.com/You-Genius-Choose-Your-Adventure/dp/0553281550)  
> In one of the options, you make a submarine that can travel into challenger’s deep. There, you find a mysterious door, which you enter and the book ends.

Wow… I grew out of Choose Your Own Adventure before they got up to 95. 🙂

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/7 "2012-04-09T23:11:32Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Big error: Lake Michigan is actually deeper than Lake Huron by about 200 feet.

Of course, technically they are the same lake.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/8 "2012-04-09T23:13:29Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Very obscure. Had to go to the forums for an answer.
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> [You Are a Genius (Choose Your Own Adventure, No 95) [Paperback] by Edward Packard](http://www.amazon.com/You-Genius-Choose-Your-Adventure/dp/0553281550)  
> In one of the options, you make a submarine that can travel into challenger’s deep. There, you find a mysterious door, which you enter and the book ends.

Wow, that’s _really_ obscure. Anyone know about the hover-text? I thought it was a reference to Lovecraft’s “The Temple”, but looking at the actual story online it didn’t end the way I remembered it, so apparently that’s not it.

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**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/9 "2012-04-09T23:33:49Z")

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All right, so long as we’re on the subject (genius cartoon, BTW), can anyone explain the David Bowie/Freddie Mercury reference?

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/10 "2012-04-09T23:37:02Z")

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> [@pesch](#):
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> All right, so long as we’re on the subject (genius cartoon, BTW), can anyone explain the David Bowie/Freddie Mercury reference?

They’re [Under Pressure](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I&ob=av3n)

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/11 "2012-04-10T00:46:58Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> They’re [Under Pressure](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I&ob=av3n)

:smack::smack::smack:

Ah, now I get it.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/12 "2012-04-10T00:52:39Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Of course, technically they are the same lake.
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> Brian

Hydrologically, they are indeed. However, biologically and culturally it can be argued they’re quite different. And it looks like XKCD took that approach.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/13 "2012-04-10T00:55:17Z")

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What’s the random white dash sitting under the Titanic?

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/14 "2012-04-10T01:18:35Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> What’s the random white dash sitting under the Titanic?

Another obscure in-joke. [http://xkcd.com/323/](http://xkcd.com/323/). Again, from the forums:

_This line segment is approximately 1400m below sea level, and is apparently the “Balmer Peak” Easter egg that he mentions in his earlier post._

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/15 "2012-04-10T02:18:07Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Another obscure in-joke. [http://xkcd.com/323/](http://xkcd.com/323/). Again, from the forums:
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> _This line segment is approximately 1400m below sea level, and is apparently the “Balmer Peak” Easter egg that he mentions in his earlier post._

I’m not seeing the connection there. What has that white dash to do with the earlier strip?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/16 "2012-04-10T02:42:25Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I’m not seeing the connection there. What has that white dash to do with the earlier strip?

I think alcohol may be involved.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/17 "2012-04-10T02:46:11Z")

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The Balmer Peak in that cartoon is a blood alcohol level of 0.1337. 1337 is leetspeak (or one version of it) for “elite”.

That line is at a depth of 1337 meters.

So I don’t know if it is a reference to the previous cartoon as simply again making reference to 1337.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xkcd-4-09-12/618312/18 "2012-04-10T02:54:49Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I think alcohol may be involved.

Most likely. 1300, .129. All the same, right? Alcohol may be the least of it.
