# xtisme, you seem like one crooked character

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378 "2011-06-22T03:15:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/21 "2011-06-22T11:25:48Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> And aren’t you a sock of that Le Jackmeoff guy that is pretty much a one trick pony on outsourcing?

\<nitpick\>Le Jackmeoff is a two trick pony. He’s also afraid of girls.\</nitpick\>

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/22 "2011-06-22T12:09:49Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> \<nitpick\>Le Jackmeoff is a two trick pony. He’s also afraid of girls.\</nitpick\>

and ponies.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/23 "2011-06-22T12:24:25Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> … **xtisme** … makes more sense than the OP.

The problem here is that you can replace _ **xtisme** _ with anything, and the sentence is still true.

_A slightly damp kitchen sponge makes more sense than the OP._

See?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/24 "2011-06-22T12:35:02Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> As for outsourcing I fail to see why it is either inherently ethical or unethical for that matter.

I fail to see why people from America are inherently more worthy of having a job than people from other countries.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/25 "2011-06-22T13:00:26Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> I fail to see why people from America are inherently more worthy of having a job than people from other countries.

American exceptionalism. We burning all your jobs!

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/26 "2011-06-22T13:04:29Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> I fail to see why people from America are inherently more worthy of having a job than people from other countries.

Thank you. I’ve never understood this argument.

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**Author:** ![randomface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@randomface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randomface)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/27 "2011-06-22T13:43:20Z")

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All your jobs are belong to us.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/28 "2011-06-22T13:48:45Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> I fail to see why people from America are inherently more worthy of having a job than people from other countries.

No jobs, no money. No money, no country. Duh.

I’m a little tired of hearing how the US shouldn’t be better than say, Libya.

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**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/29 "2011-06-22T13:54:50Z")

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> [@humanafterall](#):
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> From the pro-life side, you get a baby(which is good) from abortion you get stem cells(also pretty good).

Having babies may be ethical from a religious viewpoint but from a pragmatist philosophy it would be neutral to even unethical.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/30 "2011-06-22T13:56:35Z")

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slight hijack but I was wondering…

If Lucy’s friend had a strong moral compass is she ethical or Ethylcal?

Thanks for your help.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/31 "2011-06-22T14:54:07Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> No jobs, no money. No money, no country. Duh.
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> I’m a little tired of hearing how the US shouldn’t be better than say, Libya.

What’s wrong with Libya? They’ve got a cool leader whose got a \*fabulous \*fashion sense!

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/32 "2011-06-22T15:18:18Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I’m a little tired of hearing how the US shouldn’t be better than say, Libya.

Of course the US should be better than Libya. _Libya_ should be better than Libya is now, that’s why Nato are there.

But any attempt to make the US (or anywhere else) better at the expense of another country, which the China war hypothetical does, in an ethical sense makes the US as bad or worse than it’s enemies.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/33 "2011-06-22T15:50:47Z")

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_sigh_ Why do I always get the weird pittings??

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> xtisme, you seem like one crooked character

Well, my symbol is ‘~’ so I guess you have a point.

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> The impression you’re giving me is that your moral compass doesn’t really point North, so you’re a little confused as to what is ethical and and moral. so here’s a little reminder on what I believe is and is not ethical behavior.

My moral compass doesn’t point ‘North’, I’m confused as to what is ‘ethical and and moral’ (I have to admit at this point that I AM somewhat confused), and so you are going to tell me what you believe is and isn’t ‘ethical behavior’?? Shouldn’t you be pointing out how my low morals and crooked nature are apparent in things I’ve posted?

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> Outsourcing: NOT ethical

I don’t see it as either ethical or non-ethical, to be honest. In fact, I’m not even sure what ethical means in the context of outsourcing. Perhaps you could use this as an obvious example of my non-North pointing moral compass and crooked nature.

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> Abortion: somewhat ethical

Er…well, I’m pro-choice. What that has to do with where I stand on abortion being ethical, non-ethical or somewhat ethical I really couldn’t say.

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> Embezzlement: NOT ethical

I’m firmly opposed to embezzlement. Again, I don’t know where that puts me on the North to South facing moral compass. I also like puppies, FWIW.

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> Gay marriage: VERY ethical

What does this mean? That gays should be allowed to marry? I’m definitely for that. That gays have to marry or they are living in sin or something? I really don’t know what you are getting at with any of this.

I also like kittah.

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> Lying: NOT ethical

Unless one is a politician, in which case it’s expected. I’m anti-lying. I also like baby seals and would never consider wearing baby seal skin boots or a black cape, FWIW.

Really, to paraphrase from Goldmember, there’s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures…and the Dutch. But seriously, these days there are many decaffeinated beverages that are just as tasty as the real thing…try and keep that in mind, ok? And be careful out there…

-XT

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/34 "2011-06-22T16:05:53Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I also like puppies, FWIW.

You, sir, are worse than Hitler.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/35 "2011-06-22T16:07:09Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> But seriously, these days there are many decaffeinated beverages that are just as tasty as the real thing…try and keep that in mind, ok? And be careful out there…
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> -XT

See now you just earned a pitting. Decaffeinated versions of regularly caffeinated beverages are NEVER as tasty as the real thing. So now I’m with the OP. Your moral compass does not point North…more like a North by NorthWest

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/36 "2011-06-22T16:11:29Z")

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Decaff is delicious and I won’t hear you slander it like that!!

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/37 "2011-06-22T16:19:03Z")

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> [@humanafterall](#):
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> Outsourcing: NOT ethical  
> Abortion: somewhat ethical  
> Embezzlement: NOT ethical  
> Gay marriage: VERY ethical  
> Lying: NOT ethical

Berating the putative ethical lapses of others while having wet dreams about a civil war that would undoubtedly kill millions of people: Priceless

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/38 "2011-06-22T17:03:24Z")

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You know who esle drinks decaf?

Libyans.

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**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/39 "2011-06-22T17:09:52Z")

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> [@humanafterall](#):
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> The impression you’re giving me is that your moral compass doesn’t really point North, so you’re a little confused as to what is ethical and and moral. so here’s a little reminder on what I believe is and is not ethical behavior.
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> Outsourcing: NOT ethical  
> Abortion: somewhat ethical  
> Embezzlement: NOT ethical  
> Gay marriage: VERY ethical  
> Lying: NOT ethical

Thanks for this! I’m going to print it out, laminate it, and keep it in my wallet. That way, the next time I’m out and about, and anyone asks me about **humanafterall’s** moral compass on basic issues, I’ll have an answer straight away!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/40 "2011-06-22T17:14:08Z")

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> [@Anamorphic](#):
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> Thanks for this! I’m going to print it out, laminate it, and keep it in my wallet. That way, the next time I’m out and about, and anyone asks me about **humanafterall’s** moral compass on basic issues, I’ll have an answer straight away!

No need. I’m going to start a newsletter based on humanafterall’s moral compass. Subscriptions won’t be free, but the information they contain will be essential in daily activities - I suggest signing up, and paying for a membership for your neighbors as well.

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