# xtisme, you seem like one crooked character **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378 "2011-06-22T03:15:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/41 "2011-06-22T17:19:03Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > No need. I’m going to start a newsletter based on humanafterall’s moral compass. Subscriptions won’t be free, but the information they contain will be essential in daily activities - I suggest signing up, and paying for a membership for your neighbors as well. Hmmm, that could work. Will it be available in digital format? I’d love to have it handy on my smartphone. In fact, how about making an app, with push notifications, in case anything changes? I’d pay good money for that! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/42 "2011-06-22T17:32:08Z")
I just wear a bracelet that says WWHD. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/43 "2011-06-22T18:01:30Z")
Meh, his contributions are often just pedantic No True Scotsman arguments, I don’t think he’s invested in this message board enough for the OP to make a solid claim on his moral compass…which is true for just about every poster. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/44 "2011-06-22T18:18:33Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > Hmmm, that could work. Will it be available in digital format? I’d love to have it handy on my smartphone. In fact, how about making an app, with push notifications, in case anything changes? I’d pay good money for that! Here’s what I can offer - for a small monthly retainer, I can be reached any time of day to have a quick telephone discussion reminding you of these critical issues of morality and ethics (or at least, HAA’s stances on them). I think you’ll find my fees quite reasonable, considering their level of importance. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/45 "2011-06-22T18:21:54Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Here’s what I can offer - for a small monthly retainer, I can be reached any time of day to have a quick telephone discussion reminding you of these critical issues of morality and ethics (or at least, HAA’s stances on them). I think you’ll find my fees quite reasonable, considering their level of importance. That seems fair. And considering the importance of the information in question, I don’t know how I can say no. I’m in! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/46 "2011-06-22T18:27:32Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > That seems fair. And considering the importance of the information in question, I don’t know how I can say no. I’m in! Perfect. Now if you sign anyone else up, you’ll get a $100 bonus, as well as 10% of any revenue that subscription generates. Anyone THEY sign up you’ll get 5% of that third tier revenue. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/47 "2011-06-22T18:37:25Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Perfect. Now if you sign anyone else up, you’ll get a $100 bonus, as well as 10% of any revenue that subscription generates. Anyone THEY sign up you’ll get 5% of that third tier revenue. Hmm, that kind of sounds like a pyramid scheme to me. What’s **humanafterall’s** stance on this? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/48 "2011-06-22T18:41:16Z")
The Magic 8 Ball says: Somewhat Not Very Ethical (for the pyramid scheme). You might want to keep that in mind before leaping in. I’m not sure what it means, but it sounds ominous… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/49 "2011-06-22T18:46:09Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > Hmm, that kind of sounds like a pyramid scheme to me. What’s **humanafterall’s** stance on this? A pyramid scheme? Obviously, **Xtisme** plans to outsource his services to Egypt, and that brings us back to doe, a deer, a female deer…or something. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/50 "2011-06-22T18:48:29Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > The Magic 8 Ball says: Somewhat Not Very Ethical (for the pyramid scheme). You might want to keep that in mind before leaping in. I’m not sure what it means, but it sounds ominous… > > -XT Can we prove that the OP was not generated by means of a Magic 8 Ball? Somehow I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/51 "2011-06-22T18:50:30Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > Can we prove that the OP was not generated by means of a Magic 8 Ball? Somehow I doubt it. I think you mean, “My sources say no”. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/52 "2011-06-22T18:54:48Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > Hmm, that kind of sounds like a pyramid scheme to me. What’s **humanafterall’s** stance on this? I will point out that the pyramids in Egypt are extremely kick ass, the $25,000 Pyramid hosted by Dick Clark was fucking awesome, and the $100,000 Pyramid was 4 times more awesome than that. I will take you calling [del]my[/del] our new venture a “pyramid scheme” to be an endorsement of how much you love it and want to have its babies. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/53 "2011-06-22T19:04:42Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I will point out that the pyramids in Egypt are extremely kick ass, the $25,000 Pyramid hosted by Dick Clark was fucking awesome, and the $100,000 Pyramid was 4 times more awesome than that. I will take you calling [del]my[/del] our new venture a “pyramid scheme” to be an endorsement of how much you love it and want to have its babies. Well, I can’t argue with that! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/54 "2011-06-22T19:53:02Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Decaff is delicious and I won’t hear you slander it like that!! Then me and you is gonna hafta step out back and solve this…misunderstandin’, cuz anything naturally caff that is then made decaff is just one step removed from dead goat piss. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/55 "2011-06-22T20:45:05Z")
> [@humanafterall](#): > > The impression you’re giving me is that your moral compass doesn’t really point North, so you’re a little confused as to what is ethical and and moral. so here’s a little reminder on what I believe is and is not ethical behavior. > > Outsourcing: NOT ethical > Abortion: somewhat ethical > Embezzlement: NOT ethical > Gay marriage: VERY ethical > Lying: NOT ethical Lying is sometimes ethical; it depends on the motives of the liar and the foreseeable consequences of telling the lie versus telling the truth. While the default choice should be to tell the truth, claiming that lying is always wrong is, frankly, stupid. Outsourcing can mean hiring an outside company to do something outside the core company’s position. For instance, the Shelby county jail outsources food production; the cooks and so forth work for an outside contractor. That’s not immoral; it’s a valid choice. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/56 "2011-06-22T21:26:23Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Lying is sometimes ethical; it depends on the motives of the liar and the foreseeable consequences of telling the lie versus telling the truth. While the default choice should be to tell the truth, claiming that lying is always wrong is, frankly, stupid. > > Outsourcing can mean hiring an outside company to do something outside the core company’s position. For instance, the Shelby county jail outsources food production; the cooks and so forth work for an outside contractor. That’s not immoral; it’s a valid choice. You’re obviously as confused as xtisme. You seem to feel these issues are open to personal opinion as to whether or not they’re ethical. But they’re not. Humanafterall decides what is ethical and what is not. ---
**Author:** ![humanafterall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/humanafterall/32/19654_2.png) [@humanafterall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humanafterall)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/57 "2011-06-23T02:15:29Z")
oh fuck me sideways. That’s another I humbly submit to the list of things I fail at. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/58 "2011-06-23T02:31:45Z")
What a strange thread. **xtisme** is one of my favorite posters on here, but even discarding that bias I still can’t see what the devil this Pitting was about. ---
**Author:** ![humanafterall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/humanafterall/32/19654_2.png) [@humanafterall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humanafterall)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/59 "2011-06-23T02:37:30Z")
Okay, um I need a moderator to come along and delete this thread, because it is not working out like I’d hoped. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378/60 "2011-06-23T02:40:51Z")
Yeah, that’s not likely to happen. They will not delete, and often will not even close, a thread just because the OP is getting his or her ass handed to him/her. When one opens mouth and inserts foot all the way up to the hip joint on the internet, one must be prepared to have that saved for others to point and laugh at in perpetuity. Consider it a lesson in thinking before posting (which works equally well before speaking). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/xtisme-you-seem-like-one-crooked-character/586378.md?page=4)