# Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer is a Gold Plated Bitch

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 28, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614 "2013-02-28T06:41:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/161 "2014-03-06T18:36:59Z")

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I’m going to guess it’s a personalized page for people with yahoo accounts like the now defunct iGoogle.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/162 "2014-03-06T18:57:28Z")

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Is there a my.yahoo for zombies?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/163 "2014-03-06T19:01:52Z")

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Yahoo’s been on a downswing for years.

I’m not sure how any changes of whatever the hell my.yahoo is means she’s “ruining” Yahoo. A lot people would say it was well and truly fucked before she took the reins in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/164 "2014-03-06T19:14:11Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> I know this is the pit, but . . .
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Like you said, it’s the pit.

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/165 "2014-03-07T09:30:37Z")

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When the hell did telecommuting become the exclusive domain of mothers of small children?

OP is bitching about a rule that says “we are paying you a salary. We expect you to be here during normal working hours”.

The horror! the horror!

Maybe she saw the numbers on just how much “work” these “telecommuting” employees are producing. I suspect a large number of “telecommuting” people do not do much, if any work.  
I would not be surprised if a couple of them have figured out how to program their machines to keep their userids busy while they go to another job.

I once had a manager who came in at 9:00, hung up his coat, did his email, put on coat and leave. Repeat process at 3:00.  
Then the (woman) who was his nominal boss got “disappeared” (never did find out why she suddenly left) and he was now a direct report to a (woman) who was one of the scariest bosses I’ve met. You know what you’re doing, and doing it right, she has you covered to Hell and back; screw up and Lord help you.  
I was called into scary boss’s office to discuss tis dude - she had already filled a page of notes from talking to the folks before me - she had another half page when I left.

Then there was the guy working for the young boss who sent a nastygram to my boss re me. That guy and his manager were gone within a week. She was very effective.

I’m hoping the Yahoo boss is doing the same with kiss-off employees.

Yahoo needs a turnaround; dumping dead wood is a good start.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/166 "2014-03-07T14:35:26Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Bolding mine

France has one of the highest productivity/hour in the world. So, that’s as much bullshit.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/167 "2014-03-07T15:16:56Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> What the eff is my.yahoo?

Well, if \*you \*don’t know…

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/168 "2014-03-07T16:47:15Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> How is Yahoo even still a thing?

Sounds like they won’t be for long.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I’m kind of surprised that people are this upset about Yahoo!'s decision. People also seem to think that because Mayer is a woman, she shouldn’t be making hard-nosed decisions like this. She’s in charge, it’s her call and she made it. If it’s the wrong call, she’ll be held accountable.
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> If Mayer was a man, I wonder if people would be this outraged at the policy change?

Would your objection disappear if we called her an asshole.

The reason she is an asshole is because it is hypocritical to build a room for her hid next to her office and tell others that they can’t work from home.

It would be like getting rid of the employee’s parking lot and having the company limo pick you up and drop you off every day.

> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> The good news is she’s apparently willing to reverse this if there turns out to be no measurable evidence that making people come in actually makes a difference. The bad news is this is probably bullshit.

It sounds like an invitation to goldbrick.

> [@Bone](#):
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> Not specifically to you, but the general idea. Telecommuting means working from home or remotely. It doesn’t mean you also watch your kids while you are working. Work time is work time. Even if you telecommute, you still need to find someone else to do childcare. Otherwise you’re not really working. Either you’re working, or watching your kids, not both.

It depends. A 10 year old doesn’t need a lot of supervision but you can’t just leave them at home alone. You might have a nanny for a newborn but still want to breastfeed for 30 minutes 2 or 3 times during the workday. If you are telecommuting with kids than need constant interaction, then yeah, you just need to choose between being a stay at home mom or a working mom that pays for childcare.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/169 "2014-03-11T02:04:44Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> If Mayer were a man, the OP wouldn’t use the word “bitch”.
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> I’m a little surprised this bit of latent misogyny wasn’t brought up.
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> We have a variety of words we might use for a male CEO making an unpopular decision - asshole, jerk, dick, jackass, etc - but a woman CEO in the same position is almost always referred to as a bitch.
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> So, I call for more creativity/equality in how we denigrate our female CEOs. It must get boring using the same word every single fucking time, no?

The “c” word?:eek:

I view “bitch” as the feminine equivalent of “prick” or “bastard”.

Personally, while I like the flexibility of being able to work from home time to time, I find it extremely difficult to manage teams of people with everyone, including the client, spread across multiple cities and countries. It is extremely inefficient to work when all communication has to be by email or WebEx call.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/170 "2014-03-11T13:43:00Z")

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> [@usedtobe](#):
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> When the hell did telecommuting become the exclusive domain of mothers of small children?

When did anyone say that?

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> OP is bitching about a rule that says “we are paying you a salary. We expect you to be here during normal working hours”.
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> The horror! the horror!

Yes, the horror. A reasonable way of working that makes life easier is being denied for no good reason.

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> Maybe she saw the numbers on just how much “work” these “telecommuting” employees are producing. I suspect a large number of “telecommuting” people do not do much, if any work.

Who cares what you suspect?

She could have just said they need to work as hard at home as in the office. If she has such numbers, she’s obviously able to monitor them easily.

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> I would not be surprised if a couple of them have figured out how to program their machines to keep their userids busy while they go to another job.

You mean like people have been job-searching from their offices since the beginning of time?

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> I once had a manager who came in at 9:00, hung up his coat, did his email, put on coat and leave. Repeat process at 3:00.

So productivity isn’t assured by making people come to an office either.

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> Then the (woman) who was his nominal boss got “disappeared” (never did find out why she suddenly left) and he was now a direct report to a (woman) who was one of the scariest bosses I’ve met. You know what you’re doing, and doing it right, she has you covered to Hell and back; screw up and Lord help you.  
> I was called into scary boss’s office to discuss tis dude - she had already filled a page of notes from talking to the folks before me - she had another half page when I left.

So what? That was a guy who worked in the office! How’s that help your case?

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> Then there was the guy working for the young boss who sent a nastygram to my boss re me. That guy and his manager were gone within a week. She was very effective.

Again, relevance?

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> I’m hoping the Yahoo boss is doing the same with kiss-off employees.

It’s not. By assuming telecommuting = lazy, it’s turning off some very good employees who are able to work at home effectively, while not catching losers who waste time at the office.

It’s a dumb mistake. And you’re making it too.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/171 "2014-03-11T13:50:46Z")

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The saddest part is that a tech company did this. Tech made telecommuting possible, and some tech companies have embraced it.

I’m sure alot of Yahoo employees can easily find jobs at a more worker-friendly tech company. Heck, they’ll probably find a place that not only allows telecommuting, but has some stupid lounge and game room for employees to goof off in.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/172 "2014-10-22T02:31:00Z")

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Let’s check the progress of our gold plated bitch, shall we?

[Yahoo Sales Top Estimates as Mayer Pushes Turnaround](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-21/yahoo-sales-top-estimates-as-mayer-pushes-turnaround.html):

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> Mayer faces pressure from activist investor Starboard Value LP. Last month, Starboard questioned Mayer’s leadership and called for a breakup of the Sunnyvale, California-based company, in order to unlock more shareholder value. Starboard also asked that Yahoo cease from more dealmaking and cut costs. At the time, Mayer said she would elaborate on plans in today’s earnings call.

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> The CEO made her remarks after reporting third-quarter sales that topped estimates. Revenue, excluding sales shared with partner websites, was $1.09 billion for the period, the company said in a statement today. That was up 1.5 percent from a year earlier and exceeded analysts’ average estimate of $1.05 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. For the current quarter, Yahoo forecast revenue of $1.14 billion to $1.18 billion, compared with analysts’ average estimate of $1.17 billion.

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> Yahoo shares rose as much as 4.8 percent in extended trading, after closing at $40.17 in New York.

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> For the third quarter, profit, excluding items such as stock-based compensation, was 52 cents a share. Analysts had projected 30 cents a share.\*\* Net income attributable to Yahoo was $6.77 billion, up from $296.7 million a year earlier.\*\*

I’ll be gol-durned! Making people show up for work can be detected in the bottom line :smack:

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/173 "2014-10-22T12:21:12Z")

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Wow, she is awesome, making $6.77B of net income on $1.09B of revenue. That’s a nice trick, having -$5.68B of cost in a quarter.

Wait, she got a $9B boost from selling their stake in Alibaba, I don’t suppose that had anything to do with it.

Operationally, their revenues are up 1.5% yty and their stock is down 1% this year, compared to +5% for the S&P. Truly amazing performance.

Try2B, maybe you should stop commenting on topics you know nothing about.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/174 "2014-10-22T14:14:34Z")

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Uh, her faltering company beat estimates. Better than we can say for guys like Tom Gutierrez.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/175 "2014-10-22T15:02:42Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Operationally, their revenues are up 1.5% yty and their stock is down 1% this year, compared to +5% for the S&P. Truly amazing performance.
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> Try2B, maybe you should stop commenting on topics you know nothing about.

I know next to nothing about the health of tech companies. But I just looked at Yahoo’s stock since this thread began, and it has roughly doubled.

You seem to be saying that Yahoo isn’t doing a turnaround, but the stock price has indeed doubled. I’m unclear on how one squares that circle. Can you explain why you think he is wrong?

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/176 "2014-10-22T15:04:04Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Try2B, maybe you should stop commenting on topics you know nothing about.

No kidding, a CEO is one of our regular members? \*\*Do \*\*go on.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/177 "2014-10-22T15:04:10Z")

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Her faltering company beat the street’s estimates, which already incorporated the idea that the company was faltering.

Beating estimates is not an inherent measure of how well you’re running a company, it’s a measure of how well you’re running the company compared to the street’s most recent estimate of how well you’re running the company.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/178 "2014-10-22T15:13:29Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Her faltering company beat the street’s estimates, which already incorporated the idea that the company was faltering.

…and therefore contradicting that idea, no?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/179 "2014-10-22T15:14:03Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Her faltering company beat the street’s estimates, which already incorporated the idea that the company was faltering.
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> Beating estimates is not an inherent measure of how well you’re running a company, it’s a measure of how well you’re running the company compared to the street’s most recent estimate of how well you’re running the company.

Okay, but I’m comparing the stock price doubling since March 2013 to your assertion that everyone knows that Yahoo is failing (obviously my words and not yours, but I’m trying to rely what I think is your gist).

If Mayer is failing to revive Yahoo, I’m not following why they are beating even very modest estimates and why people seem to want the stock quite a bit more than they did 18 months ago. What I think you’re saying is that someone must have no clue about what they are talking about if they conclude that Yahoo is doing better today than in early 2013, and I’m not following why that’s such a bad conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-is-a-gold-plated-bitch/651614/180 "2014-10-22T15:15:42Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I know next to nothing about the health of tech companies. But I just looked at Yahoo’s stock since this thread began, and it has roughly doubled.
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> You seem to be saying that Yahoo isn’t doing a turnaround, but the stock price has indeed doubled. I’m unclear on how one squares that circle. Can you explain why you think he is wrong?

I think a big part of that is the one-time gain from the Alibaba sale.

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