# Yahoo declared Obama the winer! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 17, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-declared-obama-the-winer/613117 "2012-02-17T07:56:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-declared-obama-the-winer/613117/21 "2012-02-18T04:38:34Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > It is laughable to think Obama will do any better than in 2008 if Romney is the nominee. And there have been a similar shift of large amounts of states before: 1928-32, 76-80, 88-92, 96-00, 04-08. In particular many traditional Republican states like Indiana, Virginia, and North Carolina went Democrat and Democrats maximized their turnout. I doubt Obama can get as lucky this time around. Who is saying that Obama will do better? The argument is that he could do significantly worse and still win. Indiana and North Carolina are expected to swing. Add in Virginia. Add in Florida as the article does. That still leaves Romney five short. Can Romney get all five? That’s really the issue of this race. Can Romney win Ohio, New Hampshire, Colorado, Iowa, and either Pennsylvania or Nevada as well? BTW, the last two shifts you name were races without incumbents, and in 1932 the loser was Hoover. I would argue that none of the three are relevant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-declared-obama-the-winer/613117.md?page=1)