# Yale Galanter (OJs attorney) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389 "2007-05-09T14:26:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/1 "2007-05-09T14:26:57Z")
[OJ refussed service at Steakhouse](http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=261429>1=9951). So the steakhouse owner kicks out OJ and his friends since he is still sickened by the fact that OJ garners attention when he goes out. Good for him. And it looks like OJ left without a fuss. However, OJs attorney, Yale Galanter, it seems wants to play the race card and say the incident was about race. You dumb cock sucker. You give black people with legitimate gripes about being discriminated against a bad name. When there is real discrimination going on and there are people who devote their lives to fighting it and you come along and cry wolf you just set everyone back years and years. The black community should lynch you themselves for making such an asinine comment. Dumb ass. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/2 "2007-05-09T14:57:36Z")
It’s about race? Man, I would have booted him out just because he was a murderer and a Trojan (in that order). ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/3 "2007-05-09T14:58:34Z")
If they don’t kick out white murderers too, there might a case for racism. I like this quote from the story: > [@](#): > > “He screwed with the wrong guy, he really did,” Galanter said by telephone Tuesday night. “Dude! Don’t you know he _kills_ people!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/4 "2007-05-09T15:01:58Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] If they don’t kick out white murderers too, there might a case for racism. [/QUOTE] That makes sense on its face, but I don’t think it can be applied here. I’d be willing to bet black and white murderers alike have eaten there without incident. It’s not about race, it’s about notoriety. Maybe Scott Peterson would be shown the door too. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/5 "2007-05-09T15:06:17Z")
Under the law, His Juiciness is not a murderer, since he was acquitted. It would be interesting to know if the restaurant has discriminated against white people found liable for wrongful death, though. 🙂 But I believe the restaurant owner stated as his reasons that he was disgusted by OJ’s attempted book deal, and his failure to pay on his civil judgments, not for being a murderer. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/6 "2007-05-09T15:07:47Z")
I can’t believe OJ would have a jerk for an attorney! ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/7 "2007-05-09T16:31:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Ruby said the incident had to do with Simpson’s past. Makes sense now. The restaurateur must be a Cowboys fan. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/8 "2007-05-09T16:59:02Z")
[QUOTE=Slacker] That makes sense on its face, but I don’t think it can be applied here. I’d be willing to bet black and white murderers alike have eaten there without incident. It’s not about race, it’s about notoriety. Maybe Scott Peterson would be shown the door too. [/QUOTE] If he knew their background. How would he know if they were murderers? Most don’t get widely publicized. The idiot lawyer gives idiot lawyers a bad name. OJ had eaten there before. He was not kicked out because of his race. The owner took a picture with him which he hung on the wall. Then OJ brutally murdered two people. The restaurant owner took down the picture. Now years later he comes back and the owner doesn’t want him there. How does race enter into it? ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/9 "2007-05-09T17:05:48Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] How does race enter into it? [/QUOTE] Diners would be **racing** for the doors if OJ ate there? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/10 "2007-05-09T17:14:59Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] The owner took a picture with him which he hung on the wall. Then OJ brutally murdered two people. The restaurant owner took down the picture. [/QUOTE] Yeah, well, did he take down his picture of Charlie Manson? Huh? Did he, smart guy?? ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/11 "2007-05-09T17:15:08Z")
A question for the legal minds here: Is there some precedent that says, in effect, that even a not guilty verdict doesn’t mean a shield from all possible repurcussions of a violent act? I have something niggling at the back of my head along those lines, but I can’t make it gel. Given that OJ was found not guilty, but also found to be liable for the wrongful deaths, I’d think there’s even more room for legitimate doubt than there would be with a more straightforward legal situation. Either way, I’ll admit that I wouldn’t care to eat in the same establishment as OJ Simpson. Though, I’ll confess to a certain level of doubt as to whether this suit is as unwinnable as some Dopers seem to think. I’d never have imagined that a spur-of-the-moment conspiracy involving tens of people would seem a reasonable doubt to any rational mind. ---
**Author:** ![AlwaysFresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@AlwaysFresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlwaysFresh)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/12 "2007-05-09T17:20:56Z")
Doesn’t the owner of any establishment have the right to refuse service to anyone, without explanation? Most of the establishments I’ve ever entered have a sign (or rules) to that effect. If he doesn’t want OJ in his restaurant, he has that right. Myself, I would make a point of **not** frequenting an establishment where OJ is welcomed. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/13 "2007-05-09T17:28:02Z")
[QUOTE=OtakuLoki] A question for the legal minds here: Is there some precedent that says, in effect, that even a not guilty verdict doesn’t mean a shield from all possible repurcussions of a violent act? I have something niggling at the back of my head along those lines, but I can’t make it gel. Given that OJ was found not guilty, but also found to be liable for the wrongful deaths, I’d think there’s even more room for legitimate doubt than there would be with a more straightforward legal situation. Either way, I’ll admit that I wouldn’t care to eat in the same establishment as OJ Simpson. Though, I’ll confess to a certain level of doubt as to whether this suit is as unwinnable as some Dopers seem to think. I’d never have imagined that a spur-of-the-moment conspiracy involving tens of people would seem a reasonable doubt to any rational mind. [/QUOTE] I am not a legal expert but given the fact that O.J. was found not guilty for murder but then lost the wrongful death lawsuit I’d imagine that it would be _really_ hard for O.J. or his lawyers to argue that the resturant owner is being unreasonable if the owner states that he believes O.J. actually did the killings. The fact that O.J. was sued for wrongful death, and lost, pretty much proves that the innocent verdict for murder isn’t a sheild. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/14 "2007-05-09T17:37:55Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] Yeah, well, did he take down his picture of Charlie Manson? Huh? Did he, smart guy?? [/QUOTE] Charlie Manson never killed anyone. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/15 "2007-05-09T17:51:25Z")
[QUOTE=AlwaysFresh] Doesn’t the owner of any establishment have the right to refuse service to anyone, without explanation? Most of the establishments I’ve ever entered have a sign (or rules) to that effect. If he doesn’t want OJ in his restaurant, he has that right. Myself, I would make a point of **not** frequenting an establishment where OJ is welcomed. [/QUOTE] That’s a fact in most places, IANAL (heh-heh) and I’m not familiar with the laws of that state, but I’d hazard a guess that the law is the same there, too. Me? I say good on the owner. Out you go, if for nothing else, just for being a douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/16 "2007-05-09T18:14:08Z")
[QUOTE=friedo] But I believe the restaurant owner stated as his reasons that he was disgusted by OJ’s attempted book deal, and **his failure to pay on his civil judgments** , not for being a murderer. [/QUOTE] Well, he’s got him there. Sounds like a rational business decision to avoid a dine-and-dash risk. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/17 "2007-05-09T18:14:33Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Charlie Manson never killed anyone. [/QUOTE] Excuses, excuses… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/18 "2007-05-09T18:19:52Z")
[QUOTE=AlwaysFresh] Doesn’t the owner of any establishment have the right to refuse service to anyone, without explanation? Most of the establishments I’ve ever entered have a sign (or rules) to that effect. If he doesn’t want OJ in his restaurant, he has that right. [/QUOTE] In general, businesses can refuse service to anyone for any reason other than a few specifically prohibited reasons (e.g. race). That exception doesn’t apply here, this legal beagle’s efforts to assert the contrary notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/19 "2007-05-09T18:34:31Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Charlie Manson never killed anyone. [/QUOTE] Neither did OJ or Robert Blake if you want to get technical about it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389/20 "2007-05-09T18:44:23Z")
Steakhouse owner has convictions. He’s sacrificing a regular opportunity to go on E-bay and auction off 'the knife OJ used." [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yale-galanter-ojs-attorney/403389.md?page=2)