# Y'all Queda will never get it: SOCAS violation--again--in Tennessee **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022 "2022-02-07T02:35:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/101 "2022-02-11T00:39:14Z")
Paul’s Chain Letter to the Corinthians “Make 5 copies of this letter and send them to your Top 5 friends. Do not break the chain. Lazarus broke a chain letter and look what happened to him!” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/102 "2022-02-11T00:40:18Z")
And for a cool horror tale twist on that: “The wife of Lazarus broke the chain and a zombie came to her house!” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/103 "2022-02-11T01:00:31Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > No doubt. And no doubt many such horrific things have actually occurred in human history. But is it typical that people starving in a siege would _specifically_ eat their own children? I don’t think that the passage means that parents will specifically eat their own children. God’s addressing a nation, not a bunch of individual parents. He’s not saying, “Joe and Martha Hittite\* are going to put little Timmy Hittite into a pot,” he’s saying, “The nation of the Hittites will be forced to eat their own war dead,” which includes most of their younger generations. \*Or who ever Israel is at war with in that passage ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/104 "2022-02-11T01:11:11Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I don’t think that the passage means that parents will specifically eat their own children. God’s addressing a nation, not a bunch of individual parents. He’s not saying, “Joe and Martha Hittite\* are going to put little Timmy Hittite into a pot,” he’s saying, “The nation of the Hittites will be forced to eat their own war dead,” which includes most of their younger generations. This is the Deuteronomy passage. This seems very specific that it _is_ about Joe & Martha eating little Timmy, not just generic younger generations of war dead: > Then you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons and of your daughters whom the Lord your God has given you, during the siege and the distress by which your enemy will oppress you. This has turned into a massive sidetrack on the exegesis of the precise meaning of this stuff about cannibalism. I don’t know, perhaps there’s some trope from this era about eating your own children being a standard metaphor for the ultimate awful fate. I just find it especially bizarre and creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/105 "2022-02-11T01:14:34Z")
It was a time before siege weaponry but after the invention of walls, which means you take a city by starving the occupants out. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/106 "2022-02-11T01:18:06Z")
It seems fairly clear reading in context (i.e., not just one verse) that this is not advocating long pig consumption, but rather a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/107 "2022-02-11T01:18:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > this is not advocating We’ve done this to death, not again please. Read the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/108 "2022-02-11T01:19:34Z")
I did read the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/109 "2022-02-11T01:20:58Z")
Then why say exactly the same thing over again? I already responded, and agreed that “advocated” was not the best word. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/110 "2022-02-11T01:23:55Z")
Nah, edited because, well, to Hell with it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/111 "2022-02-11T01:38:08Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > It’s the completely wrong word. Okay - I should have said “has a bizarre and creepily specific fascination with” and “uses as a specific punishment imposed on people”. I’m not sure there’s a single word that captures that, is there? I concede (once again) that I hastily and carelessly used the word “advocates”. How about we drop this now? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/112 "2022-02-11T01:41:19Z")
No problem! (That’s also why I edited that response out before your last post.) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/113 "2022-02-11T01:47:47Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I know you don’t mean it, but all this talk of “God 1.0” vs. “God. 2.0” smacks of classic medieval antisemitism. It’s saying that _Jewish_ God was evil and nasty, while the _Christian_ God is merciful and good. It’s offensive. Do you want Marcionites? Because that’s how you get Marcionites. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/114 "2022-02-11T01:54:16Z")
I vaguely recall some comedian saying to the effect, “The God of the New Testament isn’t a different God from the Old Testament; He’s just mellowed out some now that He’s had a child”. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/115 "2022-02-11T10:57:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I know you don’t mean it, but all this talk of “God 1.0” vs. “God. 2.0” smacks of classic medieval antisemitism. It’s saying that _Jewish_ God was evil and nasty, while the _Christian_ God is merciful and good. It’s offensive. I apologize; it was not meant to be an antisemitic poke but rather how many Christians find the Bible the inerrant word of God and haven’t even hand-waved the Old Testament away as no longer relevant. In fact, the _God hates fags_ faction cherry-picks passages from the OT with a sprinkling from Peter. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/116 "2022-02-12T06:51:55Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > @Riemann, if interested here is information on one such religion, courtesy of historian James McDonald: [https://www.cathar.info/](https://www.cathar.info/) > > ~Max **Note:** Do not make the same mistake I did, and think that “Cathar” refers to the [Cathar](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cathar/Legends). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/117 "2022-02-14T19:48:11Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > **Note:** Do not make the same mistake I did, and think that “Cathar” refers to the [Cathar](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cathar/Legends). Is a native of Cathar a Catheter? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/118 "2022-02-15T17:52:17Z")
**Slithy Tove** : “Just swallow the communion wafer. If it sticks to the roof of your mouth, don’t use your finger! Wait…what are you doing? YOU’RE CHEWING JESUS!” Those of you not raised Catholic think he’s joking. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/119 "2022-02-15T18:32:52Z")
Yeah, I was shocked the first time a priest said “it’s bread, of course you can chew it”. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022/120 "2022-02-15T18:39:27Z")
I’ve never received Catholic communion – what are you supposed to do? Let it melt or something? Swallow it whole? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-queda-will-never-get-it-socas-violation-again-in-tennessee/959022.md?page=7)