# y'all wypipo need to grow some skin **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434 "2018-07-06T21:35:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/41 "2018-07-07T03:37:55Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m offended. The preferred term of my people is “honky”. In certain contexts, Haole is OK. Gringo is good, but you can be a _gringo negro_, too, so maybe not. Cracker is something we use amongst ourselves, so don’t go culturally appropriating it from us!! Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a bowl of jello that needs to be eaten. When I’m being especially white, I refer to myself as Mary Beth Shiksagringa. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/42 "2018-07-07T03:41:35Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Maybe I’m trivializing, but I _am_ a wypipo, and I think the term is cute. Not offense taken at all. I’m not offended by the term, but I am a bit troubled by the double standard that it represents. I’ve heard opponents of the death penalty say that you don’t teach people that killing is wrong by killing people. In the same vein, I don’t think you teach people that racial epithets are wrong by using racial epithets, or that stereotyping is wrong by stereotyping. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/43 "2018-07-07T03:45:14Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The other—perhaps more significant—usage of “wypipo” is by _white_ people who are dismissing or ridiculing black people’s complaints about racist treatment they have experienced. > > The reason I say this is more significant is that in our society, racism is truly a weapon only in the hands of white people. Anti-white racism by black people, for example, doesn’t really affect white people as a group at all in any practical sense. So white people can turn it into a joke or even turn it backwards and make it into another anti-black stereotype. That maybe so, but you don’t level the playing field by allowing a nacient, mild form of racism grow to counter the historical injustices of racial discrimination by the majority, both sides have to establish a common boundary based on mutual respect. Either saying all racial epithets is ok, or none of it is ok, you can’t pick and chose just because of a power dynamic between certain communities, racism is racism. ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/44 "2018-07-07T03:51:10Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Oh, ok. Washington Post cite. That’s incredibly credible! [/sarcasm] > > Actually it’s 72.4% ([https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2075.html#us](https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2075.html#us)) > > Not ~60% > > Whites are the majority of the population and hold majority of assets, therefore are **represented in the majority**. All the information needed is between the link above and wikipedia. > > There is nobody stopping any other ethnicity from getting the same positions or representation except for population size. That is it. > > Cry “No Fair” all you want, it’s legitimate and its not because there is some systemic conspiracy. > > Expand your demographics and work hard. More representation. > > Sorry for the derail everyone else. You’re very lucky. If you were black, you’d be washing dishes somewhere. Don’t waste your white privilege being a manager at Best Buy. Do something with it. Go to school. Get an education. Get your GED. Shoot for the stars. This from your cite (updated 2010) (emphasis mine). > [@](#): > > white 72.4%, black 12.6%, Asian 4.8%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.9%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2%, other 6.2%, two or more races 2.9% (2010 est.) > **note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); an estimated 16.3% of the total US population is Hispanic as of 2010** [According to the U.S Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217) (updated 2017), the non-hispanic white population is ~60%. That is what is so infuriating with white folks; ya’ll hoes complete your GED program or some certificate program in philosophy or law and think you’re experts in every god damned thing. If I told you Arabs and Persians are counted as white and will be counted as white in 2020", I’m sure you’d be like “No, you’re wrong”. That’s OK, here’s a [cite from NPR with that gem](https://www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581541111/no-middle-eastern-or-north-african-category-on-2020-census-bureau-says). You can trust it because, unlike me, the writer of the article is Asian and the CEO of white. I betcha you’ll believe it now. ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/45 "2018-07-07T03:57:22Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > That maybe so, but you don’t level the playing field by allowing a nacient, mild form of racism grow to counter the historical injustices of racial discrimination by the majority, both sides have to establish a common boundary based on mutual respect. **Either saying all racial epithets is ok, or none of it is ok, you can’t pick and chose just because of a power dynamic between certain communities** ,\*\* racism is racism.\*\* (emphasis mine) :rolleyes: I can’t even right now. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/46 "2018-07-07T03:59:01Z")
I’m offended by the term because it plays into the stereotype that black people can’t spell very good. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/47 "2018-07-07T03:59:31Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > If I told you Arabs and Persians are counted as white and will be counted as white in 2020", I’m sure you’d be like “No, you’re wrong”. That’s OK, here’s a [cite from NPR with that gem](https://www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581541111/no-middle-eastern-or-north-african-category-on-2020-census-bureau-says). You can trust it because, unlike me, the writer of the article is Asian and the CEO of white. I betcha you’ll believe it now. Damn, we have a CEO? I’d better start kissing ass before I’m demoted. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/48 "2018-07-07T03:59:46Z")
Man Huey, your back must ache from carrying that huge chip on your shoulder ---
**Author:** ![Huey\_Freeman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/huey_freeman/32/251_2.png) [@Huey\_Freeman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huey_Freeman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/49 "2018-07-07T04:02:36Z")
> [@HelenGawn](#): > > Damn, we have a CEO? I’d better start kissing ass before I’m demoted. Gotta be perfect. Gotta be exceptional. Gotta be the best. You’re right. It should’ve read the “CEO is white”. Good catch. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/50 "2018-07-07T04:14:22Z")
Nowadays, Jews and Asians seem to be “Schroeder’s Whites”, depending on what supports one’s argument. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/51 "2018-07-07T04:25:12Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I’m offended by the term because it plays into the stereotype that black people can’t spell very good. No, it plays into the stereotype that black people make up cool words that white people appropriate. It’s already happening in this thread. This may be the word that lets white people really finally understand that Chris Rock bit. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/52 "2018-07-07T04:39:17Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > You’re very lucky. If you were black, you’d be washing dishes somewhere. Don’t waste your white privilege being a manager at Best Buy. Do something with it. Go to school. Get an education. Get your GED. Shoot for the stars. > > This from your cite (updated 2010) (emphasis mine). > > [According to the U.S Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217) (updated 2017), the non-hispanic white population is ~60%. That is what is so infuriating with white folks;\*\* ya’ll hoes\*\* complete your GED program or some certificate program in philosophy or law and think you’re experts in every god damned thing. If I told you Arabs and Persians are counted as white and will be counted as white in 2020", I’m sure you’d be like “No, you’re wrong”. That’s OK, here’s a [cite from NPR with that gem](https://www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581541111/no-middle-eastern-or-north-african-category-on-2020-census-bureau-says). You can trust it because, unlike me, the writer of the article is Asian and the CEO of white. I betcha you’ll believe it now. If I were black I’d still be in a successful position that I am now because unlike ignorant people like yourself I don’t blame others for my problems. I do something about it instead of asking others to help me and blame others for my problems. I succeed because I work for it and try for it instead of expecting someone to hand it to me. You keep mentioning a GED and from the wording, you may have just made it to GED level with linguistics but not much further and are envious that anyone else could make something of themselves instead of bitching and moaning about how shit isn’t fair. Your politics have made you weak and blind. You can bait and switch all you want and bend figures to support your narrative but you and I both know it’s only because of a combination of population numbers and merit. If you think otherwise you are just a deluded idiot. Go ahead keep spouting your crying rhetoric and see how far it gets you. I bet not much farther than you can throw your GED. Btw: Get something better than “ya’ll hoes” when referring to white people. In the meantime, enjoy your double standard ‘privilege’ of being able to do so. God forbid anyone white refers to all blacks as “whores”. I bet you’re so dim not to see the hypocrisy of it. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/53 "2018-07-07T04:41:54Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > No, it plays into the stereotype that black people make up cool words that white people appropriate. It’s already happening in this thread. This may be the word that lets white people really finally understand that Chris Rock bit. I will be convinced of this for sure once everyone on the SDMB starts referring to other groups as “ya’ll hoes” like Huey up there. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/54 "2018-07-07T05:06:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m offended. The preferred term of my people is “honky”. In certain contexts, Haole is OK. Gringo is good, but you can be a _gringo negro_, too, so maybe not. Cracker is something we use amongst ourselves, so don’t go culturally appropriating it from us!! Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a bowl of jello that needs to be eaten. It’s blue eyed devil to you, mister! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/55 "2018-07-07T05:18:32Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > I will be convinced of this for sure once everyone on the SDMB starts referring to other groups as “ya’ll hoes” like Huey up there. Uh, no because I didn’t say being black means all your catch phrase attempts work. Hopefully non-racists get the joke. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/56 "2018-07-07T05:43:08Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > If I were black I’d still be in a successful position that I am now because unlike ignorant people like yourself I don’t blame others for my problems. I do something about it instead of asking others to help me and blame others for my problems. I succeed because I work for it and try for it instead of expecting someone to hand it to me. Holy shit. Did you just look up racist stereotypes in wikipedia and type out the entry? That is one entitled load of bullshit right there. I can’t wait to hear all about what other imaginary things you’ll do when you’re removed from your position of privilege in imaginary land. Maybe next week you can tell us all about your life as a disabled person? What about life without money? Fuck off, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/57 "2018-07-07T05:47:50Z")
I am white. The term “wypipo” doesn’t really offend me that much. That be said, it does make it easier for white people to be dismissive of someone’s views on race if they repeatedly use slang or epithets to describe a race or ethnic group. In my experience the one term most white people seem to most offended to be referred to is “white trash”. Though, to be fair, I have never heard any African American describe a white person as “white trash”; only other white people. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/58 "2018-07-07T06:20:34Z")
It sounds like a word that racist white people would use to deride AAVE. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/59 "2018-07-07T06:22:46Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Holy shit. Did you just look up racist stereotypes in wikipedia and type out the entry? That is one entitled load of bullshit right there. I can’t wait to hear all about what other imaginary things you’ll do when you’re removed from your position of privilege in imaginary land. Maybe next week you can tell us all about your life as a disabled person? What about life without money? > > Fuck off, asshole. What? What’s racist? I am speaking of liberal ideas which the person I was replying to obviously holds. \*\*Read \*\*everything again **with your racism-glasses off**. The discussion was about white people having the majority of positions in a lot of mainstream employment and government. I said this is due to them being majority population and wealth, the other poster denied it. Then the other poster (quite obviously liberal) insinuated and made some insult that it was about some ‘privilege’ bullshit on the part of myself and by extension all whites and was making suggestions about education level. My reply was to counter that, as he was asserting that whites are not deserving of their positions and are over represented and I do not agree. Meh, I don’t have to justify anything actually. It’s shocking how much you libbies look for a narrative at any fucking angle. No wonder so many are jumping ship and the democratic party is a miserable failure lately. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/60 "2018-07-07T08:19:10Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > pet names created by liberals You need a crash course in Black Twitter and why the word exists. Hint: liberals got fuck all to do with creating wypipo. > [@Delicious](#): > > I’m going to start hip hopping and using wypepo, I’m taking it back yo! That’s **our** word! Wypepo can totally be your word (what’s that, a dyslexic melon?). Wypipo was never “your” word. > [@BigT](#): > > Like it or not, the term “wypipo” is indeed a derogatory term that is used to negatively stereotype white people. I’m just going to quote [neguswhoread](http://neguswhoread.com/wypipo-explained/): **But don’t you think the term is derogatory and kind of racist towards whites?** No. It is derogatory towards wypipo. White people love to issue the caveat “not this white person,” and exclude themselves from any negativity. This is their perfect opportunity to do that. Plus it is a great lesson on white privilege. and then tell you to shut up, **BigT** … > [@](#): > > We say that when someone tells you that a term is racially loaded and offensive and has a history of being used derogatorily, we should stop using it. You think the issue with “nigger” is just that the word itself has a history of being used derogatorily? Go fuck a cactus…after you first give it a long, boring, poorly-grounded moralizing lecture, you bloviating ignoramus. > [@](#): > > We make exceptions for us, meaning that we don’t really believe what we claim to believe. What do you mean “We”, wypipo? > [@](#): > > my feelings are not more important than making sure we stay on message, and present a united front against all racism. If you think calling wypipo “wypipo” \*is \*racism, I don’t want you on my side, because you \*definitely \*don’t have my back. Using “wypipo” does serve as a handy test - a completely organic neologism that nevertheless nicely serves to a) draw out the racist snowflakes so eager to cry “you’re racist too” b) distinguish the truly woke from the mere show-liberal. > [@](#): > > we MUST remain entirely against all racism, even the small stuff. If we aren’t, then we cannot fight racism. Holy logical fallacy, Batman. > [@](#): > > If we lose our principles, our morals, then this really does become just about “what we find offensive.” Gosh, if only there was some other component to this besides what words are offensive. but, since both sides are totally free from any other kind of systemic and historical oppression, I guess you’re right - everything is totally fair and balanced. Truly, we have so much to learn from you. > [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](#): > > To everyone else, there are three reasons I decided to make an issue out of Dibble’s use of ‘wypipo’: The fact that you’re a giant racist who literally called for the lynching of Black Netflix executives didn’t seem to make your list, there, **Jakey** -boy. > [@](#): > > Either racial insults _are_ OK, in which case they’re OK for everyone, or they _aren’t_ OK, in which case they’re not OK for anyone. Aah, false dilemma, my old nemesis… > [@](#): > > Dibble would contend that Adam _and_ Chris we’re being racist because Chris said nigger and Chris is white. Yes, I was so vocally and repeatedly calling Friedland a racist all over that thread… …oh, wait, I didn’t? I actually and repeatedly said Friedland was fired for insensitivity and being bad at executiving, not racism? Huh, must be all this straw lying around here, that obscured that little fact. > [@](#): > > how much insulation they think their own skin color provides. I’m totally cool with White people using “wypipo” to describe wypipo, no insulation is necessary. > [@](#): > > 3). I just flat out _don’t like_ Mr Dibble. No! Who’d ever have guessed. You’ll have to line up behind my other regular stalkers, though. > [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Either saying all racial epithets is ok, or none of it is ok, Damn, was it three-for-one day at the Fallacy Store? > [@](#): > > you can’t pick and chose just because of a power dynamic between certain communities, racism is racism. Yes, you most certainly can. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434.md?page=4)