# y'all wypipo need to grow some skin

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 6, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434 "2018-07-06T21:35:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/81 "2018-07-07T14:55:36Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Look at Mr Black Twitter Expert, here.I’ve said as much. Like I’ve said before - I like the word because in its simplifying of spelling (for Twitter reasons) it scans a little like baby talk - and I use it to talk to and about big, stupid, over-privileged, racist babies.

Black Twitter is of no redeeming value whatsoever, just like the rest of Twitter. “Oh no, someone is upset on Twitter” is a sentence of no actual substance.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/82 "2018-07-07T15:04:07Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Black Twitter is of no redeeming value whatsoever, just like the rest of Twitter. “Oh no, someone is upset on Twitter” is a sentence of no actual substance.

Twitter is good for sports news and rumors. 🙂

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/83 "2018-07-07T15:04:17Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> Black Twitter is of no redeeming value whatsoever

[Keep telling yourself that](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Twitter#Influence)…sure, [no value](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter).

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/84 "2018-07-07T15:11:11Z")

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I think I’m going to shorten it to Wypi when I’m taking it back.

Now there are white people and there are wypies, your white people be all ‘hello, how are you? Fancy a spot of tea’ while your Wypies are all ‘blAaaaAaRg!’

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/85 "2018-07-07T15:16:37Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Twitter is good for sports news and rumors. 🙂

Okay, I’ll give you that. And actual breaking news from verified and respected news sources. But “people are on Twitter are upset” is not actually of any importance.

Why am I even posting in this thread when England just scored again?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/86 "2018-07-07T15:18:50Z")

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> [@Delicious](#):
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> I think I’m going to shorten it to Wypi when I’m taking it back.

If they accidentally [fell in the water](https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/02/04/51-living-by-the-water/) they love living near, they’d be _Wet Wypis_.

Of course, given how often they’re objecting to something, some of them will always be \*But Wypis \*

Yes, this has potential…

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/87 "2018-07-07T15:39:38Z")

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The term is derogatory towards lower class “Blacks”. It was invented by middle and upper class “Blacks”. I first became familiar with its use on “Black Twitter” a few years ago. Historically, middle and upper class “Blacks” have been very hostile towards the culture and lifestyle choices of lower class “Blacks” because they believe the culture hinders their efforts to be accepted into American society at large (IOW it has hindered their ability to become “White” like the Irish, Italians, and Jews). This term springs from this tradition and is also coupled with the newfound antagonism of young woke “blacks” towards “whites” in general.

It is apparently offensive to thin-skinned white identitarians who have seen a surge in activity following the trump and sanders campaigns.

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/88 "2018-07-07T15:39:53Z")

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I’m also going to start referring to all black people as blacklist…to be honest I’ve been doing this in my head for years, I’m just going to be honest about it now.

All other ethnicities will be grouped collectively as Slappypants.

If anyone thinks this is a bad idea, blame the patriarchy, they made me do it.

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/89 "2018-07-07T15:58:38Z")

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> [@Delicious](#):
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> I’m also going to start referring to all black people as blacklist…to be honest I’ve been doing this in my head for years, I’m just going to be honest about it now.
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> All other ethnicities will be grouped collectively as Slappypants.
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> If anyone thinks this is a bad idea, blame the patriarchy, they made me do it.

Not blacklist, Blacula

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/90 "2018-07-07T16:33:14Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Look at Mr Black Twitter Expert, here.I’ve said as much. Like I’ve said before - I like the word because in its simplifying of spelling (for Twitter reasons) it scans a little like baby talk - and I use it to talk to and about big, stupid, over-privileged, racist babies.

I know you said as much. You said it to me last month in the thread I linked earlier when I asked you. No Black twitter expertise required.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/91 "2018-07-07T16:50:33Z")

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> [@Mr. Dibble](#):
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> Oh, you meant “culled for the good of the herd” in some different, non-lynchy “spirit”, then? Or “someone [who]complains that I said the word nigger” doesn’t include the Black Netflix staff who did just that, somehow?

Yes, it includes the black Netflix staff. You know who else it includes?

_EVERYBODY OF ANY RACE WHO THINKS THAT CONTEXT DOESN’T MATTER!_

If you’re a white person who thinks context doesn’t matter, I’m talking to you. If you’re a Native American person who thinks context doesn’t matter, I’m talking to you. If you’re a fucking vampire from the methane seas of Titan who thinks context doesn’t matter, I’m talking to you. If you’re a fat fuck South African who [looks like](https://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/13366.html) he has to knock on doors and introduce himself when he moves to a new neighbourhood, oh yes sir, _I’m talking to you_.

I can see I’m going to have to spell this out: If an insult or observation can _only_ be applied to members of group X, it may well be racist. If, on the other hand, it can be applied to anyone who _thinks a certain way REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE_, then it isn’t fucking racist, even if it can be applied to select members of group X.

Do you get it now, you lying fucking maggot?

> [@Mr Dibble](#):
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> Repeating the fallacy isn’t going to magically make it true, guy. That’s some really primitive thinking you got going on there.

Repeatedly calling something a fallacy doesn’t make it fucking so either. I’ll say it again, either racist insults are OK, or they aren’t. What’s the secret third option?

> [@Mr Dibble](#):
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> Yes.
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> I’m sure you can figure out the difference between that and me calling Chris a racist. Any day now…

If a person uses what you call racist words (even in a 100% _anti-racist_ context), and doesn’t apologise when whiny dickbags like you “call them out”, what do you call that person?

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/92 "2018-07-07T16:57:36Z")

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And incidentally, “culled for the good of the herd” is something that people say _all the time_ when talking about idiots. Ever heard of the Darwin Awards, you thick fuck? Their slogan is literally _“Honouring those who improve the human genome by removing themselves from it.”_ My POINT was that we’d be better off without idiots like you who are too stupid to grasp the importance of context. Again, nothing to do with race. Just an observation about truly, cataclysmically stupid people like you.

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/93 "2018-07-07T17:31:58Z")

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So is Blitter it’s own thing or just referring to Blaculas using Twitter?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/94 "2018-07-07T17:44:06Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’m just going to quote [neguswhoread](http://neguswhoread.com/wypipo-explained/):  
> **But don’t you think the term is derogatory and kind of racist towards whites?** No. It is derogatory towards wypipo. White people love to issue the caveat “not this white person,” and exclude themselves from any negativity. This is their perfect opportunity to do that. Plus it is a great lesson on white privilege.
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> and then tell you to shut up, **BigT** …

And literally everything in that post applies equally to the n-word.

> [@](#):
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> You think the issue with “nigger” is just that the word itself has a history of being used derogatorily?
> 
> Go fuck a cactus…after you first give it a long, boring, poorly-grounded moralizing lecture, you bloviating ignoramus.

Yes, I do believe that, considering it is the factual case. Notice how you didn’t refute this. You just called me names. If you had a counter argument, you would have given one. Instead, even though I was nice to you, you decided to treat me like garbage.

> [@](#):
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> What do you mean “We”, wypipo?If you think calling wypipo “wypipo” \*is \*racism, I don’t want you on my side, because you \*definitely \*don’t have my back.

In that case, you are correct. You just attacked me, and are making excuses for racism. I don’t have your back. I do, however, have the back of your minority group, and will continue to fight even as you actively choose to make everything worse.

> [@](#):
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> Using “wypipo” does serve as a handy test - a completely organic neologism that nevertheless nicely serves to  
> a) draw out the racist snowflakes so eager to cry “you’re racist too”  
> b) distinguish the truly woke from the mere show-liberal.

The idea that you think being “woke” is a real thing just shows how little you care about reality. You’re talking about a term used to make people think they aren’t racists, when anyone knows that everyone is somewhat racist. It’s just a way to pat yourself on the back.

Or it means believes you believe conspiracy nonsense.

> [@](#):
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> Holy logical fallacy, Batman.  
> Gosh, if only there was some other component to this besides what words are offensive. but, since both sides are totally free from any other kind of systemic and historical oppression, I guess you’re right - everything is totally fair and balanced.

And here you are deliberately creating a strawman, as I did not say anything of the sort. If I’m so wrong, why do you have to make up shit I didn’t say? I never said it was equal. I said it gives ammunition to the alt-right to claim such, because you can’t keep the lid on your desire to use a slur against white people.

> [@](#):
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> Truly, we have so much to learn from you.

I went out of my way to be nice to you and understand your anger and your reactions. Then you treated me like garbage. You provided no counterarguments to anything I actually said.

You go around using a term that you know will piss people off and thus lose them as potential allies. You could get them on your side, but you’re so interested in a fucking purity test that you put that above the cause.

So, while I’m sure most Dopers have nothing to learn from me, it sure fucking seems you do. I’m assuming good faith in that you’re not trying to make things worse, but you fucking are.

It sucks that, to be a full SJW anti-racist, anti-bigotry, pro-feminist, progressive, socialist, and moral person that I have to fight against someone who I am trying to help.

You could fix it, or you can continue to be sputtering in anger and accomplishing nothing. And, coming from me…

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/95 "2018-07-07T18:59:37Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I know you said as much. You said it to me last month in the thread I linked earlier when I asked you. No Black twitter expertise required.

I’m not Black Twitter. I was referring to you claiming to know how it’s “almost entirely” used “in general”.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/96 "2018-07-07T19:08:44Z")

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> [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](#):
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> Yes, it includes the black Netflix staff.

Enough said…

> [@](#):
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> Repeatedly calling something a fallacy doesn’t make it fucking so either. I’ll say it again, either racist insults are OK, or they aren’t. What’s the secret third option?

You think there’s _only_ a third? Try again.

> [@](#):
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> If a person uses what you call racist words (even in a 100% _anti-racist_ context), and doesn’t apologise when whiny dickbags like you “call them out”, what do you call that person?

I’d call \*that \*person a little bit racist. Of course, that’s you moving the goalposts of your little hypothetical to include a new apology parameter.

Netflix dude \*did \*apologize, though. So even by whatever you think you’re creeping towards with your piss-poor attempt at maieutics, I didn’t call him a racist even indirectly.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/97 "2018-07-07T19:24:53Z")

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> [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](#):
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> Yes, If you’re a fat fuck South African who [looks like](https://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/) he has to knock on doors and introduce himself when he moves to a new neighbourhood, oh yes sir, _I’m talking to you_.

That’s way the fuck over the line, asshole.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/98 "2018-07-07T19:27:05Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’m not Black Twitter. I was referring to you claiming to know how it’s “almost entirely” used “in general”.

I asked other people in that thread too and I peaked at a couple of websites. That’s more than enough research. If you want to actually say I’m wrong, go ahead rather than dance around it.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/99 "2018-07-07T19:40:40Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> In that case, you are correct. You just attacked me, and are making excuses for racism. I don’t have your back. I do, however, have the back of your minority group, and will continue to fight even as you actively choose to make everything worse.

He’s not in a minority group.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yall-wypipo-need-to-grow-some-skin/817434/100 "2018-07-07T19:42:03Z")

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Well, hell, I guess I’d have to encounter it in real life. Seems a bit precious. If minorities are OK with using this term for whites, and whites shouldn’t be offended, are there similar terms whites can use for minorities which shouldn’t cause ire? Brwonpipo? Blapipo? Canadiopipple? Can we call Hawaiians pinapipple?

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