# Yankee fans are fucking animals, man

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 20, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164 "2004-10-20T03:21:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/81 "2004-10-20T04:57:10Z")

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Get a load of sulky boy:

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/82 "2004-10-20T04:57:13Z")

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> [@cckerberos](#):
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> I don’t suppose that there’s any possibility of A-Rod getting suspended from Game 7?

You’d suspend someone for being called out for interference??

It’s not like he punched Arroyo in the face. He committed interference. The proper penalty has already been applied - he was called out.

Despite skutir’s weird little rant, this sort of play happens all the time - jeez, don’t any of you guys PLAY baseball? Honestly, the world seems to be full of armchair managers who watch it, but nobody seems to play it. If you’re approaching a base and a guy is tagging you close to your arms the urge to reach out and swat at it is overwhelming, unconscious. You’re trained to use contact to jar tags loose - reaching out like that is easy to do in the heat of the moment. I’ve done it myself. I can’t begin to count the number of times I’ve seen it done.

The umps made the right call in the end, so everything is fine. There’s no controversy here. It was interference, they called it, and applied the penalty properly. It’s over.

What really sucks is that due to my travel schedule I will miss most, if not all, of tomorrow’s epic conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/83 "2004-10-20T04:57:25Z")

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Joe Torre was on TV still bitching about that call after the game and acting like the Pin stripes had been screwed by the umps. He actually seemed to be buying that “natural motion” bullshit.

Someone needs to show him a replay before he makes more of an ass of himself.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/84 "2004-10-20T05:00:00Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> Get a load of sulky boy:
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> [http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/photo?slug=nyy12510200439.alcs\_red\_sox\_yankees\_nyy125&prov=ap](http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/photo?slug=nyy12510200439.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy125&prov=ap)

That’s a good look for him. Let’s hope we get to see it again tomorrow night.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/85 "2004-10-20T05:02:41Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Despite skutir’s weird little rant, this sort of play happens all the time -

Despite a couple of people having no discernible sense of humor, jokes like mine are told all the time. It’s a kind of litote, I guess – exaggeration by understatement.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/86 "2004-10-20T05:04:47Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> You’d suspend someone for being called out for interference??
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> It’s not like he punched Arroyo in the face. He committed interference. The proper penalty has already been applied - he was called out.
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> Despite skutir’s weird little rant, this sort of play happens all the time - jeez, don’t any of you guys PLAY baseball? Honestly, the world seems to be full of armchair managers who watch it, but nobody seems to play it. If you’re approaching a base and a guy is tagging you close to your arms the urge to reach out and swat at it is overwhelming, unconscious. You’re trained to use contact to jar tags loose - reaching out like that is easy to do in the heat of the moment. I’ve done it myself. I can’t begin to count the number of times I’ve seen it done.
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> The umps made the right call in the end, so everything is fine. There’s no controversy here. It was interference, they called it, and applied the penalty properly. It’s over.

It’s usually not quite this blatant. There’s subtle pass interference and then there’s dragging Randy Moss by his jersey. This is case of the latter. It wasn’t an elbow or a high shoe on a slide, it was a obvious, undisguised swipe at the ball. Even that’s not _so_ bad, if you’re not cheating you’re not trying, I always say. But when you get busted on it you should accept it and shrug it off instead of trying to argue about it, and the entire team does not have to come out and scream at the umps for doing their job.

My Op was more about pitting the fans anyway. There is no excuse to throw garbage, even you do get legitimately screwed on a call.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/87 "2004-10-20T05:09:48Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> If you’re approaching a base and a guy is tagging you close to your arms the urge to reach out and swat at it is overwhelming, unconscious.

And the urge to run away from a small white ball thrown up to 110 mph in very close proximity to you is pretty damn strong, but baseball players are trained to adjust to it and deal, just like baserunning. It may be instinct, but it’s still an utterly acceptable excuse.

I don’t fault Joe Torre too much for coming out after the call was reversed (which, no matter what the play, will result in a manager coming out). I mean, Torre ain’t on the roster and can’t cheat, so I don’t think anything about a manager arguing is particularly wrong or unethical.

So anyway, I thought MLB had a rule that controversial plays could not be showed on the big screen. Am I wrong?

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/88 "2004-10-20T05:11:14Z")

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That would explain why I never see close plays replayed when I’m at the park. Stupid rule if it is one, since it might actually mollify fans to see the call is right.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/89 "2004-10-20T05:13:21Z")

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> [@Troy McClure SF](#):
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> And the urge to run away from a small white ball thrown up to 110 mph in very close proximity to you is pretty damn strong, but baseball players are trained to adjust to it and deal, just like baserunning. It may be instinct, but it’s still an utterly acceptable excuse.

Exactly.

Which is why he was called out, and Jeter was returned to first.

Everything is as it should be, so what’s the problem? Seems to me the rules covered the situation quite nicely, the umpires did a great job, and the result was fair.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/90 "2004-10-20T05:14:20Z")

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A Rod should not be suspended. If he doesn’t play, how are the RedSox pitchers going to drill him?

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/91 "2004-10-20T05:16:42Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Before, one observes, he even touched the bag. Hmmm.

Yes! That bothered me more than anything else. A-rod went past first base clearly without touching the bag, yet the ump was calling safe as soon as the ball popped out of the pitcher’s glove.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/92 "2004-10-20T05:18:40Z")

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I figure that was just a signal that he wasn’t tagged out. A-Rod still tagged the bag.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/93 "2004-10-20T05:19:26Z")

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> [@Troy McClure SF](#):
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> So anyway, I thought MLB had a rule that controversial plays could not be showed on the big screen. Am I wrong?

I’m pretty sure you’re right, although i can’t find anything official about it on the MLB website or elsewhere on the internet.

I know they never replay controversial calls at Camden Yards.

Personally, i think it’s a stupid rule.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/94 "2004-10-20T06:00:30Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> A Rod should not be suspended. If he doesn’t play, how are the RedSox pitchers going to drill him?

Uhhh, throw approximately 45 degrees to their left? 😉

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/95 "2004-10-20T06:01:33Z")

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> [@Yeticus Rex](#):
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> Uhhh, throw approximately 45 degrees to their left? 😉

Dammit…RIGHT…RIGHT…RIGHT! :smack: :smack: :smack:

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/96 "2004-10-20T06:32:50Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Personally, i think it’s a stupid rule.

I think it’s a policy, not a rule. I think if they show close plays it would just as likely make the fans more riled as mollify them.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/97 "2004-10-20T07:04:05Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> Can you imagine the blood in the streets of the Bronx if one of the Sox hits a dinger to wrap this game up?
> 
> Two of my co-workers are big-time Yankee fans, and yesterday when I went out for a second to see how the game was going I cheered a bit for the Red Sox, and they both told me to shut up. Apparently Yankee fans can’t handle the fact that they are one of the primary reasons why people hate their team.
> 
> Quit being petulant, arrogant pricks.

Damn you Dave! I had a nice life going here. A good job, a wife who loves me, a new kid on the way. Everything was peachy, and then you post this and my head explodes from irony. You ruined everything, you partisan Steelers prick. What’s worse is that I like you, too. Pot. Kettle. Black.  
😛😃😛😃

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/98 "2004-10-20T07:26:02Z")

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Touche. Fucking Ravens prick. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/99 "2004-10-20T08:21:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “It was a big momentum changer,” Rodriguez said. “I don’t want those umpires to meet anymore because every time they meet, it goes against the Yankees.”

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![thursday\_next](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@thursday\_next](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thursday_next)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankee-fans-are-fucking-animals-man/270164/100 "2004-10-20T10:09:01Z")

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I practically grew up on a baseball field, you have no idea how many of my brother’s games I’ve been too, it was just insane. The players, starting with dad’s pitch, were taught sportsman like behaviour. They were not taught to play like or act like a thug. A Rod was acting like a thug. Let’s all enjoy this charming quote from Mr. [Sportsmanship](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/baseball/mlb/specials/postseason/2004/10/20/redsox.yanks.ap/index.html?cnn=yes):

> [@](#):
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> “I know that line belongs to me and he was coming at me,” Rodriguez said. “Once I reached out and tried to knock the ball, the call went against me. I should have just run over him.”

I love the underdog, so I’m rooting for the Red Sox in this series; as for the one nearer and dearer to my heart: go stros!

After such a poor display of sportmanship (and fucking admitting to it) I’m even more against the Yankees. Rodregiez, go play hockey, fighting’s ok there, trust me. Oh, and that little box the goalie is behind, go mess with him in it. The other players won’t mind. 😉

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