# Yankees\_1996\_Champs: troll or dumbass

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864 "2020-07-09T20:04:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/22 "2020-07-10T02:13:41Z")

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He definitely gives of a “How do you do, fellow kids?” vibe.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/23 "2020-07-10T02:19:13Z")

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It’d be a lot easier if he spelled his name “urbanredneck3”.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/24 "2020-07-10T02:36:27Z")

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That’s when he was born.

A 4channer, master of online video games, and likes to stir up liberals. Or maybe a bot.

Go SOX!! 😃

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/25 "2020-07-10T03:43:05Z")

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Leave him alone. He’s just asking questions.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/26 "2020-07-10T03:45:46Z")

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Does he have his parents’ or guardians’ permission to do such a thing? I mean, we say “fuck” and stuff, so could be damaging.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/27 "2020-07-10T05:44:37Z")

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I’m surprised that there’s any debate here. **Yankees\_1996\_Champs** is a textbook example of a [concern troll](https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/concern-troll/).

His syntax sounds distinctly Russian to me (particularly his use of adverbs, e.g. “vocally endorsing”), but I’ll defer to language experts on that.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/28 "2020-07-10T12:14:42Z")

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Troll and dumb ass are not mutually exclusive. I think he is both.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/29 "2020-07-10T13:12:45Z")

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Wasn’t he the guy who accidentally posted a link to Russian Wikipedia? Or, was that another troll?

I think I’m going to stop reading threads that start with, “others seem to think that …” Tell us your own position or GTFO. It’s all concern trolling.

ETA: Nope, that was **Manwich** who posted the Russian webpage.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/30 "2020-07-10T13:16:12Z")

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It is pretty much this.

I figure he is a minor troll and a major dumbass.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/31 "2020-07-10T13:21:45Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think I’m going to stop reading threads that start with, “others seem to think that …” Tell us your own position or GTFO.

This. When moderation on the board gets their footing again, I’d really like to see a push for moderating this sort of topic dump. He doesn’t engage in the conversation, because he’s just in it to drop a turd and watch everyone wrestle in it. I don’t see the Russian angle - I just think he’s an idiot kid who likes to troll.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/32 "2020-07-10T13:33:08Z")

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# [Yankees\_1996\_Champs: troll or dumbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864)

He can be both.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/33 "2020-07-10T13:43:02Z")

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He has admitted (due to overwhelming evidence) that English isn’t his first language.

Whether that first language is Russian or not, I’ll leave as an exercise to the reader, but if it drinks vodka like a duck…

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/34 "2020-07-10T13:43:57Z")

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Recursive.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/35 "2020-07-10T14:01:28Z")

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I have no idea whether or not he in a NYer, but English as a 2nd language is quite common in NYC and among Yankee fans.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/36 "2020-07-10T14:07:47Z")

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True, but language aside, the ‘odd’ assertions about American culture in general (“people think…” and the like) and some of the stranger bits of sports fandom (like being supportive of Tom Brady and the Pats while simultaneously a NY sports team fan) produce serious cognitive dissonance.

Not saying it’s impossible, but it’s a lot simpler for me to conclude he’s a foreigner pretending poorly and stupidly to be in the US than an unusually clueless New Yorker.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/37 "2020-07-10T14:14:02Z")

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That might explain the weird take on Long Island (even though that’s not where he lives) being a political weather vane for the entire state of NY. Still, doesn’t make him a professional troll. Just a trolling dumbass.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/38 "2020-07-10T14:36:59Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I have no idea whether or not he in a NYer, but English as a 2nd language is quite common in NYC and among Yankee fans. -

First language is NYawk?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/39 "2020-07-10T14:48:23Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Leave him alone. He’s just asking questions.

And he’s a cute polite little pinniped too! 🐧 [Using a penguin because, to my utter shock, there’s no sea lion smiley, tho there is an **Octopus** one… 🐙]

> [@erysichthon](#):
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> I’m surprised that there’s any debate here. **Yankees\_1996\_Champs** is a textbook example of a [concern troll](https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/concern-troll/).

Welp, _someone_ has to take up **ITR Champion** ’s slack…

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/40 "2020-07-10T14:55:47Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> He doesn’t engage in the conversation, because he’s just in it to drop a turd and watch everyone wrestle in it. I don’t see the Russian angle - I just think he’s an idiot kid who likes to troll.

The preoccupation with race and white working class voters aligns with Russia’s efforts in 2016 and again this year.

"The Russian government has stepped up efforts to inflame racial tensions in the United States as part of its bid to influence November’s presidential election, including trying to incite violence by white supremacist groups and to stoke anger among African-Americans, according to seven American officials briefed on recent intelligence.

“Russia’s lead intelligence agency, the S.V.R., has apparently gone beyond 2016 methods of interference, when operatives tried to stoke racial animosity by creating fake Black Lives Matter groups and spreading disinformation to [depress black voter turnout](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/us/politics/russia-2016-influence-campaign.html).”

> **[Russia Trying to Stoke U.S. Racial Tensions Before Election, Officials Say...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/politics/russian-interference-race.html)**
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> Russian intelligence services are trying to incite violence by white supremacist groups to sow chaos in the United States, American intelligence officials said.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/41 "2020-07-10T14:56:57Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> First language is NYawk?

Well, that’s my first language, so I say no to it being **1996** ’s first language. 🕶

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> True, but language aside, the ‘odd’ assertions about American culture in general (“people think…” and the like) and some of the stranger bits of sports fandom (like being supportive of Tom Brady and the Pats while simultaneously a NY sports team fan) produce serious cognitive dissonance.
> 
> Not saying it’s impossible, but it’s a lot simpler for me to conclude he’s a foreigner pretending poorly and stupidly to be in the US than an unusually clueless New Yorker.

I don’t follow nor care about him closely enough to know his entire posting history, and have taken to actively ignoring his threads. I’m simply against posters using poor English skills as “proof” one is a _Russian_ troll (complete with all the political implications). SDMB had trolls aplenty before 2016. Trolls are going to troll, and clueless idiots are going to be clueless idiots, and **1996** could be either or both.

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