# Yankees\_1996\_Champs: troll or dumbass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864 "2020-07-09T20:04:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/122 "2020-07-19T00:50:28Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The posts look as if they were run through a free online translator. Having read way too many of Yankees\_1996\_Champs’ posts over the past few months, I have to say that I see no way that this is NOT true. It’s as certain as anything on this planet. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > This is why the cries of “Russian troll” bother me. No actual paid and directed Russian troll is wasting time here. Nope, we just get the garden variety trolls, same as we’ve always had. Of course paid and directed foreign trolls post on small-to-medium boards like this one—they have to put in some time _proving_ they can pass for Americans before they’re promoted to programming Facebook and Twitter bots, for heaven’s sake. Russia isn’t the only nation running such programs, certainly—but as many have pointed out, this particular account-writer frequently uses peculiarly Russian syntax. Of course Russian trolls and bot-programmers have to learn their trades. Of course they don’t start right away in the big leagues. They work their way up via posting on small-to-medium boards–getting the syntax right, the references right, the attitude right. It’s not as though they can pass as Americans without putting in that effort. It’s common sense. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/123 "2020-07-19T03:34:52Z")
I highly doubt he’s a professional troll. He’s not even in the ballpark of getting the talking points right. Talking in a bizarrely dramatic fashion about topics that are essentially boring political analyst stories about this or that political trend among white people, and doesn’t actually give people the pieces to put together into whatever racist dogwhistle he’s trying for. He also doesn’t do what any competent troll would do which is frame the initial argument as something their critics would need to bring evidence to discredit, rather than something he would need to verify. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/124 "2020-07-19T04:17:58Z")
Well, he’s learning…and we seem to be training him. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/125 "2020-07-19T13:00:24Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Well, he’s learning…and we seem to be training him. At the risk of furthering this, and at the risk of seeming like a conspiracy theorist who sees lack of evidence as proof, I think the odd spelling in this post also points to using an online translator: > [@Will 2020 be hard on democrats also?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-2020-be-hard-on-democrats-also/915277/21): > > Yes. > > And yes, most cities run in America are Democratic-run. > > You can’t blame Giuliani and Riordan anymore, this is not 1997. > > And yes, a lot of Democratic officials have called for abolishing police. > > This is why a lot of police officers are endorsing Trump or associating themselves with the GOP in campaigns and mailers. A truly effective troll who used their own words would not add those tiring-to-type extra two letters to “Democrat”. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/126 "2020-07-19T13:26:59Z")
> [@Will 2020 be hard on democrats also?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-2020-be-hard-on-democrats-also/915277/21): > > And yes, most cities run in America are Democratic-run. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt (…at first). But he’s clearly not comfortable with English. And since he claimed he was native speaker (of English AND folk speak!), that throws suspicion on everything else he says. Or maybe I should say “that makes me disbelieve everything else he claims”. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/127 "2020-07-19T14:02:12Z")
@Yankees_1996_Champs is not a professional troll. He’s a useful idiot doing this in his spare time. He’s a disenchanted Russian ex-pat who never quite got the hang of the English language, never stopped reading Russian controlled propaganda/media, misses the authoritarian style leadership of his former government and sympathizes with the Republican right-wing bigotry which is as familiar to him as Putin’s mother milk. In summary, he’s sad, pathetic, bigoted, dumb, angry and incapable of seeing the world around him in any other way than the way he’s been brainwashed to see it. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/128 "2020-07-19T14:34:38Z")
In other words, like John Cleese, he could be arguing in his spare time. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/129 "2020-07-19T14:38:04Z")
I’m with @QuickSilver. Heck, could be anywhere from East Europe even. My Polish neighbor, who is also a Yankee fan (though the Polish family across the street are Mets fans and should be considered an enemy of the people) often speaks as 1996 writes. Hmmm, I wonder…nope, he’s not an shit-stirring asshole. And he’s not as clueless about the Yankees. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/130 "2020-07-19T15:41:35Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > In other words, like John Cleese, he could be arguing in his spare time. No, he isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/131 "2020-07-19T15:44:44Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > No, he isn’t Yes, he is. (okay, I’ll stop now…) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/132 "2020-07-19T15:52:46Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Yes, he is. > > (okay, I’ll stop now…) That was never 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/133 "2020-07-19T16:01:14Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > That was never 10 minutes Yes, it was. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/134 "2020-07-19T16:04:29Z")
It was never 10 minutes. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ohDB5gbtaEQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Argument - Monty Python") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ) ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/135 "2020-07-19T18:31:33Z")
I am not a troll. I am an Independent voter. Just because I am warning Democrats that they are overplaying their hands does not mean that I am a right wing. You guys think you have the election in the bag. You don’t. Trump is going to lose, but Biden will have a hard time getting his far-left coalition to come together on certain items. Period. That’s not trolling, that is reality. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/136 "2020-07-19T18:34:52Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I am an Independent voter. Just because I am warning Democrats that they are overplaying their hands does not mean that I am **a right wing**. **A** right wing? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/137 "2020-07-19T18:36:14Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I am not a troll If you say so…but a bit of advice? If the topic ever comes up in conversation, you should say “The moose and the squirrel foiled my plot!”, not “Moose and squirrel foil plot!” ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/138 "2020-07-19T19:10:32Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > You guys think you have the election in the bag. You don’t. Okay, Dostoyevsky, please provide cites for _anybody_, on or off this board, who think that Joe Biden has this election “in the bag.”. Right now. Links-a-go-go. Put up or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/139 "2020-07-19T19:46:23Z")
Like I said, you’re not a troll (in the classic sense). I’m not wrong about the Russian part either, am I. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/140 "2020-07-19T20:07:32Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Just because I am warning Democrats that they are overplaying their hands does not mean that I am a right wing. Well, you’re some kind of wing. Perhaps you are a chicken wing. And here in capitalist imperialist America, the expression is that someone “overplays their hand” (singular), a reference to a hand of cards. Of course, in Mother Russia, hand overplays _ **you** _. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > If the topic ever comes up in conversation, you should say “The moose and the squirrel foiled my plot!”, not “Moose and squirrel foil plot!” That’s “Moose and sqverrel”. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864/141 "2020-07-19T21:04:17Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > You guys think you have the election in the bag. You don’t. What bag? I have garbage bag. It also suitcase. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yankees-1996-champs-troll-or-dumbass/914864.md?page=8)