# Yeah, god really loves his children

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2001, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918 "2001-09-11T21:10:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lockfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@Lockfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockfist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/1 "2001-09-11T21:10:09Z")

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At least we can turn to the lord in our time of need. What kind of godforsaken planet do we live on ? Go to heaven ? We’re obviously all in hell already.

Blitzkrieg… Witchcraft… Mass-Murder… Megaslaughter… Maddness… Terror

The Occult Power of Destruction… Nuclear Warfare… Burning Stroms of Radiation… A-Bomb… Pure Deathf\*ck…

_ **Yeah, god Really Loves his Children** _.

Someone please tell me about our loving lord. Someone please tell me that the lord took 10,000 lives from us for a greater cause in heaven.

**GOD HATES US ALL**.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/2 "2001-09-11T21:20:48Z")

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Ummmmmm…Since when did Witchcraft cause this? I was actually looking for wiccans and pagans in my area to get together and pray for these people.

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/3 "2001-09-11T21:40:32Z")

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😕

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/4 "2001-09-11T21:42:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lockfist \*  
> Burning Stroms of Radiation

Band name!

I can see Senator Thurmond on lead guitar.

FWIW, I subscribe to a more deistic view of the world. God made everything, set up the laws by which Nature is governed, and then sat back for the most part and let things run their course. I don’t believe God is responsible for the horrible things that have taken place today. I believe He is saddened by the terrible devastation caused by His most wayward creation, though.

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**Author:** ![Lockfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@Lockfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockfist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/5 "2001-09-11T22:23:46Z")

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> **Sauron** said: Band name!

**The Crown**. From the album _Deathrace King_. Ol’ Strom would have a heart attack from the first 3 seconds of the song.

I think your view is the _only_ reasonable view of god. I just can’t see how people can turn to “god” in this miserable time. He obviously doesn’t care about his creation. Either that or he’s making way for his next one.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/6 "2001-09-11T23:06:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lockfist \*  
> \*\* I just can’t see how people can turn to “god” in this miserable time. He obviously doesn’t care about his creation. Either that or he’s making way for his next one. \*\*

Please. This is utter bull. It’s our responsibilty as humans to take care of our fellow man. That’s our job. **Our** job. We are judged by how we treat our fellow man. If we mistreat them, we are judged harshly. If we feed and clothe them, that’s to our advantage. All this violence that this will spawn will sadden him.

Let me reiterate: God doesn’t cause things. We let them happen.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/7 "2001-09-11T23:08:21Z")

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which god are we refering to? too damn many of em’, need a scorecard to keep track. problem is, the nut-job assholes who caused all this shit are pretty damn sure thier god loves them…

me, i think they are (unable to come up with anything good enough to insult them, but ferret shit would somehow figure into it)

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**Author:** ![Tokiwoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@Tokiwoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tokiwoki)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/8 "2001-09-11T23:19:43Z")

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Hey Lockfuck…  
You’re still alive, aren’t you? You have our loving Lord to thank for that. Don’t be hateful. We’ve seen enough of that for today.

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/9 "2001-09-12T01:41:20Z")

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…and eagerness to slag people for doing so…well, I think of it this way. A certain fellow was reputed to have expressed, at a particularly bad time, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” He was, to many millions of people, not a fellow they’re disposed to think poorly of. I forget his name, but he was supposed to have been pretty durn important.

It seems to me that if that particular fellow can get away with that without being called a fuck, that perhaps those who put stock in his narrative could cut their fellow mortal grunts a little slack.

But maybe that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/10 "2001-09-12T01:43:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Drastic \*  
> \*\*But maybe that’s just me. \*\*

No. Not just you.

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**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/11 "2001-09-12T01:47:04Z")

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God is the world’s most infamous deadbeat dad…

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**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/12 "2001-09-12T01:49:43Z")

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You’re not a fuck for thinking so, but don’t think that you hold all the answers, either, and don’t attack people who DO turn to God at times like these.

According to Christianity, God gave us free will. FREE will. Meaning that we could do whatever the Hell we wanted, but we’d be judged by our actions in the end. Meantime, he’s there to lend a helping hand, to offer support for suffering people, and maybe even throw a miracle or two into the mix. But he can’t just stop the damn plane from hitting the building. That would violate free will.

God didn’t kill 10,000 people, **Lockpick**. Humans did. We did. And that’s the scariest thought of them all.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/13 "2001-09-12T02:19:59Z")

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Jester? Hear, hear! As a Christian who just got back from a prayer service this evening, I was trying to figure out how to explain free will, and you did a better job than I could have. BTW, the service did help me lance the boil I was feeling develop on my soul.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/14 "2001-09-12T04:42:26Z")

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It’s understandable to feel anger and bitterness, but I echo Baker and Jester’s sentiments.

Let us not forget the many blessings we experience all the time. And let us not forget the incredible bravery and self-sacrifice that the people of NYC are displaying right now. Is that not some evidence of beauty, and love? Life is not all death and bleakness. Not even on a day such as today.

I daresay that on this day from Hell on the East Coast, God has shown His mercy many times.

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**Author:** ![Lockfist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/838e76/32.png) [@Lockfist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockfist)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/15 "2001-09-12T06:24:00Z")

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I appreciate that no one will change their religious beliefs after this event but I still have 2 problems with gods creation (and therefore god himself).

1. The attack was based on religious differences.

2. God allowed a massive amount of his children to parish for nothing. This happens on a daily basis but on this grand scale it just becomes so painfully obvious that he is not a merciful diety who I am ready to give my life for.

_“He’s got the whole world, in his hands”_ - now don’t you feel safe ?

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/16 "2001-09-12T06:37:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lockfist \*  
> \*\*I appreciate that no one will change their religious beliefs after this event but I still have 2 problems with gods creation (and therefore god himself).
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> 1. The attack was based on religious differences.
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> 2. God allowed a massive amount of his children to parish for nothing. This happens on a daily basis but on this grand scale it just becomes so painfully obvious that he is not a merciful diety who I am ready to give my life for.
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> _“He’s got the whole world, in his hands”_ - now don’t you feel safe ? \*\*

Gee thanks. Way to light up a room.

You can look at all the dispair and devastation, or you can look at all the bravery and heroic self-sacrifice, and love.

You can realize that people actually _do_ have a choice in this world, and today was a result of some evil people’s choice.

I am certainly not suggesting you change your views, but man! What’s the point in trying to bum everyone else out too? Don’t you think we _know_ the sadness, grief and dispair of this situation? Why try to depress the rest of us like this, with your bitterness and dispair? What exactly is it going to accomplish? Do you think it’s going to make us stronger? What?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/17 "2001-09-12T08:18:30Z")

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You want God to override **all** acts of violence committed under freewill?  
Think about it, America would still belong to the native Americans, Australia to the Australian Aborigines and so on…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/18 "2001-09-12T09:57:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tokiwoki \*  
> \*\*Hey Lockfuck…  
> You’re still alive, aren’t you? You have our loving Lord to thank for that. Don’t be hateful. We’ve seen enough of that for today. \*\*

Let’s be consistant. If the Lord kept Lockfuck alive, then that Lord _didn’t_ help those in need. You can’t have it both ways. Either he’s hands on or hands off.

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**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/19 "2001-09-12T10:20:29Z")

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Yep, let’s blame God. After all, evil men had nothing to do with this. That was St. Peter in the cockpit of one jet, maybe Paul in the other, hey…maybe Jesus was in one too. It never fails, let something bad happen and the first to be blamed is God. So who gets the blame for all the goodness in the world? Or do you just take your next breath for granted?  
Maybe I missed something somewhere after hours of watching the coverage on this, where was it said that religion played a part in this? My understanding so far has been that it was the symbol of the World Trade Center that was destroyed and brought down. An attack on America, not an attack on religion.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-god-really-loves-his-children/80918/20 "2001-09-12T13:30:04Z")

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I like the fact that the President and my sons school principal said we should say a prayer.  
How on earth do atheists get hope and comfort?

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