# Yeah, I guess it's been a while since we've done this... (Tuba being an ass)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242 "2008-03-30T02:21:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/41 "2008-03-30T05:19:51Z")

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[QUOTE=asterion]

Now a Rickroll that turns into the Spanish Inquisition, that would be unexpected.  
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_No one_ expects the Spanish Inquisition!

30 posts later and I can’t believe I’m the first one to post this. You guys are slacking off!

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/42 "2008-03-30T05:22:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
**Tuba** used strong language as part of an administrative action. There are no rules about the language staff are required to employ when issuing warnings.  
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> [@](#):
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> Personal insults directed against other posters are not permitted outside the BBQ Pit forum.
> 
> In several forums (Great Debates and Cafe Society, for instance) there’s rarely a “correct” answer. Multiple viewpoints are to be expected. It should be possible to share your views, understand someone else’s views, and disagree with someone else’s views, without the need for personal insults.
> 
> Violations of good manners and common courtesy constitute jerkhood, and are a bannable offense. If you must flame, go the forum called BBQ Pit and insult as you please.

]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697084&postcount=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697084&postcount=2))[

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> Are there any rules on insulting other posters?  
> Generally, you may not directly insult other posters. The strictness of this rule varies a bit by forum, but the basic rule is that you should attack what the other person says, not the other person.
> 
> The only exception is the forum called The BBQ Pit, where flaming other posters is permitted.
> 
> Hate speech directed against any race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or gender is a violation of our rules, as outlined in the Registration Agreement.
> 
> And please note the difference between an insult directed against a person and an insult against a large group.  
> ACCEPTABLE: “Anyone who likes the music of Enema is soulless and lacks taste in music.”  
> NOT ACCEPTABLE: “You like Enema’s music? Then you’re soulless and have no taste in music.”

]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697044&postcount=10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697044&postcount=10))

I see nothing differentiating members and staff.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/43 "2008-03-30T05:46:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
I see nothing differentiating members and staff.  
[/QUOTE]  
You’ve got to be kidding me. _This_ is your defense? You think the rules (written by the staff) specifically constrain the staff to follow forum rules when warning someone because they don’t explicitly say otherwise? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/44 "2008-03-30T05:49:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
You’ve got to be kidding me. _This_ is your defense? You think the rules (written by the staff) specifically constrain the staff to follow forum rules when warning someone because they don’t explicitly say otherwise? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.  
[/QUOTE]  
Yeah, expect staff to follow the rules too? That’s just ridiculous. What was I thinking?!

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/45 "2008-03-30T06:02:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
Yeah, expect staff to follow the rules too? That’s just ridiculous. What was I thinking?!  
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I swear this is like trying to teach a pig to sing. :rolleyes:  
Go back and read post #33  
When come back bring pie.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/46 "2008-03-30T06:08:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
Yeah, expect staff to follow the rules too? That’s just ridiculous. What was I thinking?!  
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Wow. Somehow you’ve managed to twist your panties so hard they’re emitting an audible hum. Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/47 "2008-03-30T06:23:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Wow. Somehow you’ve managed to twist your panties so hard they’re emitting an audible hum. Amazing.  
[/QUOTE]

You’re killin me, man. 😃

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/48 "2008-03-30T06:24:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
You’ve got to be kidding me. _This_ is your defense? You think the rules (written by the staff) specifically constrain the staff to follow forum rules when warning someone because they don’t explicitly say otherwise? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.  
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Sorry, Giraffe, you’re clearly in the wrong here. It would have been VERY EASY for TubaDiva to make her point even more strongly than she did, without calling someone an ass. (The poster clearly was an ass, I just think TubaDiva was wrong to violate board rules by calling him one.)

Here’s what Tuba could have and should have said instead of calling the guy an ass:

“In posting this link, you have demonstrated that you are a jerk. We have a rule against being a jerk on this board. Violate it one more time and you are out of here.”

Doesn’t violate board rules and makes the point even more strongly. But somehow, it never occurred to TubaDiva, whom I believe was being a jerk by violating board rules herself.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/49 "2008-03-30T07:01:52Z")

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I guess I’m about 40 posts too late to declare “Let the armchair quarterbacking commence!”

In other words…

Oh good god, enough of the “here are the words I think the mod should have used instead to make this all better”. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/50 "2008-03-30T07:26:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Chimera]  
I guess I’m about 40 posts too late to declare “Let the armchair quarterbacking commence!”

In other words…

Oh good god, enough of the “here are the words I think the mod should have used instead to make this all better”. :rolleyes:  
[/QUOTE]

If you don’t enjoy people with contrary opinions discussing things, maybe your should reconsider your position wrt being on a message board. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/51 "2008-03-30T07:41:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
If you don’t enjoy people with contrary opinions discussing things, maybe your should reconsider your position wrt being on a message board. :rolleyes:  
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If you don’t like people using different words than what you might use, maybe you should just fucking get used to it.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/52 "2008-03-30T12:08:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
Wow. A disingenuous liar 9/11 conspiracy nut is attacking me. Whatever shall I do?  
[/QUOTE]

You should shut up. She’s a certified genius. Are you?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/53 "2008-03-30T12:26:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
You’ve got to be kidding me. _This_ is your defense? You think the rules (written by the staff) specifically constrain the staff to follow forum rules when warning someone because they don’t explicitly say otherwise? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.  
[/QUOTE]

“Do as I say, not as I do.”

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/54 "2008-03-30T12:33:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
Sorry, Giraffe, you’re clearly in the wrong here. It would have been VERY EASY for TubaDiva to make her point even more strongly than she did, without calling someone an ass. (The poster clearly was an ass, I just think TubaDiva was wrong to violate board rules by calling him one.)

Here’s what Tuba could have and should have said instead of calling the guy an ass:

“In posting this link, you have demonstrated that you are a jerk. We have a rule against being a jerk on this board. Violate it one more time and you are out of here.”

Doesn’t violate board rules and makes the point even more strongly. But somehow, it never occurred to TubaDiva, whom I believe was being a jerk by violating board rules herself.  
[/QUOTE]

How is this any better? Are regular posters allowed to call another poster a jerk? No. Just because the word jerk specifically appears in the rules doesn’t mean it’s the only term a moderator can use. Jerk, ass, idiot, whatever, it’s all the same, and ultimately a moderator needs to be able to make comment in a way that is outside the rules for regular members. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to warn someone for trolling outside of the pit.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/55 "2008-03-30T12:46:50Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> And for the same word, too (and Hostile Dialect wasn’t even CALLING someone an ass). I’d missed that. That’s…um…really, really dumb.
> 
> It’s apparently ok to CALL someone an ass in ATMB, you just can’t mention their actual ass? Interesting.

Eh. Tuba’s an Internet Tough Girl; what else is new? I just try not to cross paths with her, and it generally works. I’m not too worried about it.

As for the rickroll site with all the popups, that’s sheer jerkery. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what will happen if you troll a thread that mods and admins have already shown in.

> [@Garfield226](#):
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> Wow. A disingenuous liar 9/11 conspiracy nut is attacking me. Whatever shall I do?

I don’t know what’s sadder: that your panties are in such a tight knot or that you’ve officially certified that you have no real argument by actually bringing peoples’ political beliefs and conspiracy theories into the conversation.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/56 "2008-03-30T12:59:10Z")

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[QUOTE=zuma]  
She’s a certified genius.  
[/QUOTE]  
At what?

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/57 "2008-03-30T13:11:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
Yes, because it was funny the first time too. Rickrolling was never funny. It’s obnoxious, and dishonest.  
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:rolleyes: x 1000

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**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/58 "2008-03-30T14:06:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Garfield226]  
…I’ve already posted that I think the link was inappropriate. It’s the calling someone an ass for it in ATMB (especially after calling out another poster for the ass…door comment earlier) that warrants the pitting.

And the paying-for-now customers deserve representatives who respect the rules they’re supposed to enforce.  
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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
\<speaking as a poster\>  
Holy crap, are you kidding me, **Garfield226**? … Rinse the sand out of your vagina already.  
[/QUOTE]

Bwahhahahaha!

[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
…

Oh, and, you’re a whiny cunt, **Garfield**.  
[/QUOTE]

I think my opinion is nicely stated by Giraffe and Fear Itself.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/59 "2008-03-30T14:17:17Z")

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If **Tuba** had been any _less_ rude it would have been pissweak. Crank it up a tad, please.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yeah-i-guess-its-been-a-while-since-weve-done-this-tuba-being-an-ass/443242/60 "2008-03-30T14:30:49Z")

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[QUOTE=FarmerChick]  
I think my opinion is nicely stated by Giraffe and Fear Itself.  
[/QUOTE]  
I have to concur. **garfield226** is a douchebag. Further, the concept of rickrolling is douchebaggery. My question is, how do the 15 year olds who would think such a thing is funny know about that Rick Astley song anyway?

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