# Year Ago Today Bush Re-Elected: Happy Now Assholes?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 2, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134 "2005-11-02T19:09:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/21 "2005-11-02T20:43:28Z")

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Nah, by that time he’ll have been named president for life. We won’t have to go through these messy ugly elections anymore. 😉

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/22 "2005-11-02T20:44:02Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> No, it really is only year one. He didn’t win the 2000 election, remember?

Forgot about that one. And it was vote fraud in Ohio last year too, so I guess it is year zero.

> [@mishannah](#):
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> The fact that you could look at those bloated floating dead bodies and say “neener neener neener” is one of the more disgusting things I’ve ever read. But not the most…and who knows, you have three more years to top yourself, asshole.

I will do my best to live up to your expectations.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/23 "2005-11-02T20:44:48Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I’m certainly pleased about the Supreme Court thing.

Understandably so, given your judicial philosophy. But how do you feel about Iraq? The ballooning deficit? The abysmal performance of FEMA and what it implies for our security?

I don’t expect you to throw Bush aside if you feel he’s fulfilling at least some of the promises you believe he made to you. How do you rate his performance in these other areas?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/24 "2005-11-02T20:44:51Z")

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He’ll probably do that by declaring martial law and indefinately suspending the elections, just like Clinton was going to do way back in 1999, at least according to my American Dad-like republican father.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/25 "2005-11-02T20:47:03Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Yeah, that’s pretty much it. If we liberals expect to have any hope in hell of winning an election, we need to remember that, to most Republicans, “it’s all about me.” And adjust accordingly. It isn’t about the future you leave your kids. It isn’t about the civil liberties we were born with getting ripped away from us. It’s all about the moolah, baby. Well. That and power. Nothing else really matters.

And pissing off the idiots. And grinding in the faces of the poor.

OK - among our chief delights are such diverse elements as power, moolah, grinding in the faces of the poor, and golf.

I’ll come in again.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/26 "2005-11-02T20:48:55Z")

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> [@Thudlow Boink](#):
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> He’s the same Bush now as he was in 2004. Nothing has really happened to make me change my opinion of him. (Although I’m not one of the ones who voted for him in '04.)

Same here. I thought of him as a stupid, spoiled, cowardly, spineless, gutless, backbiting, lying, traitorous, corrupt, selfish, arrogant, incompetent bastard back then. I still think of him that way. 😉

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/27 "2005-11-02T20:49:57Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> As for the rest - neener neener neener.

Post saved, for the next time some idiots talks about how liberals are happy that the US is losing the war.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/28 "2005-11-02T20:52:34Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Understandably so, given your judicial philosophy. But how do you feel about Iraq? The ballooning deficit? The abysmal performance of FEMA and what it implies for our security?
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> I don’t expect you to throw Bush aside if you feel he’s fulfilling at least some of the promises you believe he made to you. How do you rate his performance in these other areas?

In brief…

Iraq: I’m not happy about Iraq. I think the failure of intelligence with regard to chemical/biological weapons was abysmal. However, given that those failures created a situation in which we thought there were such weapons there, it was reasonable to invade. And having invaded, we can’t just drop our guns and leave now. A mistake got us into this, but we’ve got no reasonable choice now but to exit in a fahsion that won’t leave the country’s new government teetering shakily.

Deficit: very unhappy. Again, some of these expenditures are understandable - in a war, and for natural disasters, it’s expected to run a deficit. But then we’ve got the Medicare prescription benefit, we’ve got the avian bird flu spending… this isn’t moving in the right direction.

FEMA: I think the proper steps were taken to replace an incompetent official at the helm of FEMA, and FEMA’s subsequent responses have been good. I also think much of the blame for Katrina response belongs to Nagin and Blanco, not the feds.

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**Author:** ![mrrealtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@mrrealtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrrealtime)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/29 "2005-11-02T20:53:33Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> Anyone who complains about their kid being dead from this war is an unpatriotic whiner and a terrorist sympathizer.

Perhaps we should send you instead. At least no one would whine about it.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/30 "2005-11-02T20:53:48Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Year five, for those of us who can actually count.
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> And for the same group, the 2004 deficit was $109 billion lower than projections.

And that’s supposed to be a _good_ thing? Our deficit was still [$318.62 billion](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/14/AR2005101401167.html)–and this just a few years after we were running surplusses. This is like being happy you lost 20 yards on a play rather than 30. Moreover, even if you do consider this to be “good” news, it’s probably only temporary since the deficit will likely increase next year due to (among other things) the costs related to Katrina. But the rich get to pay less taxes and that’s what’s really important.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> As for the rest - neener neener neener.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Which is all the more reason why I still regret last year’s electoral outcome. I knew when you people won that you’d become even more insufferable than you were during the previous four years.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/31 "2005-11-02T21:01:44Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Yes, I’m quite happy with everything. Of course your four “facts” that you listed in your post are all things I scoff at or disagree with, if they were all true then maybe I wouldn’t be so happy.
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> Also, I’m glad you’ve resorted to calling half of America assholes. I guess if you don’t vote for Democrats then you MUST be an asshole, you know, screw the concept of being able to disagree on political issues in a civil manner.

I think of them as fools, monsters and vermin, not assholes.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> As for the rest - neener neener neener.

Well OK, some \* are\* assholes.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/32 "2005-11-02T21:02:26Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Same here. I thought of him as a stupid, spoiled, cowardly, spineless, gutless, backbiting, lying, traitorous, corrupt, selfish, arrogant, incompetent bastard back then. I still think of him that way. 😉

And those are his good qualities.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/33 "2005-11-02T21:03:32Z")

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I don’t buy the “we thought there were weapons” excuse anymore. American agents broke into the Niger embassy in Rome with the purpose of planting forgeries that could be used to give the appearance that Saddam was building a nuclear arsenal. The reason that the administration’s retribution against Wilson was so vicious was that they did not want this story pursued any further. The plain truth is that the administration lied with malice and lied deliberately and then sought to destroy anyone that dared question them.

I don’t have a problem with the deficit coming in much smaller than predicted. I do have a problem with there being record deficits on the heels of the Clintonian surpluses. The Pubbies shouldn’t point to these numbers as proof of their fitness to govern.

Besides the criminal misconduct that started the war and the fiscal irresponsibility, you have a man that has brought the US to the level of a torturing third world nation. He is a war criminal just as much as any tin horn dictator elsewhere in the world.

The man belongs in prison, not in the White House.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/34 "2005-11-02T21:03:57Z")

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Yes, I’m very happy, thank you very much. Next?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/35 "2005-11-02T21:04:41Z")

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Year Ago Today Kerry Defeated. Happy Now Oh Wise Ones?

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/36 "2005-11-02T21:06:13Z")

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> [@Twin](#):
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> I’m thrilled. Seeing liberals become more and more unhinged every day is a constant source of comedy.

You are too easily amused. Becoming unhinged over greed, corruption, incompetence, stupidity, and lies from our government at the highest level is a very human reaction. Patriotic, I would say.

The real humor (in a sick and twisted way) is watching those who still support this government twist logic and reason into a pretzel to support their beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/37 "2005-11-02T21:07:58Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> And that’s supposed to be a _good_ thing?

Well, yeah, a hundred billion drop is a good thing.

> [@](#):
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> Which is all the more reason why I still regret last year’s electoral outcome. I knew when you people won that you’d become even more insufferable than you were during the previous four years.

See - the trends are positive!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/38 "2005-11-02T21:12:48Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well, yeah, a hundred billion drop is a good thing.  
> Regards,  
> Shodan

???

IF it had been an ‘actual drop’, maybe. But it was a “we didn’t loose quite as much as we predicted”. from your post here, we could guarentee **Shodan** would be a happy camper by simply taking the projected deficit and doubling it before the number’s released. See, we reduced the additional deficit by 100% - isn’t that grand?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/39 "2005-11-02T21:12:54Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Yep, very funny what they are saying, remember how hilarious it was when that silly senator had to take back the gulag comment regarding the imprisonment of our foes? How silly…
> 
> [http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/chi-0511020226nov02,0,7650513.story](http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/chi-0511020226nov02,0,7650513.story)
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> … Well, never mind.

I assume your outrage over the leaking of this classified information which directly affects national security will equal your outrage over the outing of a CIA employee?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/40 "2005-11-02T21:19:27Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I assume your outrage over the leaking of this classified information which directly affects national security will equal your outrage over the outing of a CIA employee?

see- I don’t get this at all.

the **actual torture** isn’t wrong.

it’s the damned press telling everyone we did.

guess what asshole -the torture itself is wrong.

let me ask you this - If you knew that another country had snatched one of our citizens up, flown them to someplace, to hold them and torture them, never allowing anyone to even know you had them, with out charges, without representation, w/o any oversite at all - you would have no problem with that?

'cause I gotta tell you right now, I could make a damned good case for Rumsefeld, Bush, Rice et al being “Dangerous to the national security” of other nations, which by this logic would allow them the right to do all of the above.

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