# Year Ago Today Bush Re-Elected: Happy Now Assholes? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134 "2005-11-02T19:09:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/141 "2005-11-03T04:30:41Z")
The stupid bastard couldn’t even keep the lies straight. Clear and imminent threat. Ties to Al Queda. Nuclear weapons. WMD. Niger yellow cake uranium. They hate us, they hate our freedom. Iraq attacked us (yeah he said that during the debates). Stupid fucker can’t even get his countries straight. It’s bad enough he’s a liar, what’s worse is he is bad at it and thinks he can change the lies in mid telling, and it won’t get noticed. And then we have MartinHyde saying it’s OK. Well fuck that. Here is a straight question Martin. If it was all lies, and all bullshit, then what the fuck are we fighting for? It damn sure isn’t to make the world a better place, and it damn sure isn’t making anyone safer. So what is the reason? ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/142 "2005-11-03T04:33:17Z")
> [@](#): > > **Ivylass** : Would you be upset at hearing about black sites if Kerry had won last year, or would you be defending it as a necessary evil? We came down so hard on Lyndon Johnson for his lies about Vietnam that he didn’t even run for reelection in 1968. (In the 1964 election he had won _all_ states except for his opponent’s home state.) I would _never_ defend torture. I wonder what John McCain thinks about the use of torture and these Black Sites. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/143 "2005-11-03T04:36:54Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > We came down so hard on Lyndon Johnson for his lies about Vietnam that he didn’t even run for reelection in 1968. (In the 1964 election he had won _all_ states except for his opponent’s home state.) > > I would _never_ defend torture. > > I wonder what John McCain thinks about the use of torture and these Black Sites. I wonder why McCain doesn’t just rear back and punch Georgie right between the running lights. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/144 "2005-11-03T04:39:24Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > A year ago tonight was a good night. I loved watching Kerry, Moore, Franken, Springsteen et al go to bed knowing they had failed miserably. _Loved_ it! > > Oh, and I have a question for all you Bush-bashers: which pro-war, anti-gay marriage candidate did _you_ one year ago today? Are we missing a verb here? I don’t get what you’re trying to say (actually, it’s a familiar feeling). > [@Bricker](#): > > I’d repeal the Medicare drug benefit scheduled to take effect next year. For the next five years we’d save about $300 billion. I’d zap the “earmarks” in the highway bill, and kill about $30 billion. > > When Bush became president, the two top income tax rates were 39.6 percent and 36 percent. Now they’re 35 percent and 33 percent. How much, precisely, do you think we’ve lost in revenue with those cuts? **Bricker** , I’m far from a tax expert (EZ my ass), so please take this as serious inquiry - I don’t mean to sound sarcastic if it comes off that way. According to [this](http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm), the top two tax brackets are those who make $91,400 to $163,225 and those who make over $163,255. The rates match up, so I’m hoping that’s accurate. If so, it seems like a while these groups are a vast minority in the country, don’t they contribute a whole lot of the tax revenue? Seems like even a one or two percent cut from these brackets would be significant, especially during wartime. And you stated your position very clearly, and it seems hard to misinterpret, but tell me if I have it wrong. You’d rather cut spending on medicine for poor people than leave taxes for rich people alone? Am I missing something here? ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/145 "2005-11-03T04:41:48Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > Are we missing a verb here? I don’t get what you’re trying to say (actually, it’s a familiar feeling). The missing verb is “vote”, I suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/146 "2005-11-03T04:46:19Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > And you stated your position very clearly, and it seems hard to misinterpret, but tell me if I have it wrong. You’d rather cut spending on medicine for poor people than leave taxes for rich people alone? Am I missing something here? I think you pretty much got it in one. Those people work hard for their money. They deserve it much more than those deadbeats that are basically a siphon on society. It’s what they get for not planning ahead better. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/147 "2005-11-03T04:47:59Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I wonder why McCain doesn’t just rear back and punch Georgie right between the running lights. [It’s hard to do when you are hugging](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188858/posts) ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/148 "2005-11-03T05:06:00Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > which pro-war, anti-gay marriage candidate did _you_ one year ago today? Are you implying you got some in the oval office last november? As far as I know, Bush doesn’t use cigars, so what was it, a pretzel? With regard to how things are going one year later, I’m pleased as punch. Cheney’s approval rating is [down to 19%](http://cbs5.com/topstories/topstories_story_306204435.html), Bush’s a little higher, they keep fucking up, and the GOP is working their tails off trying to keep everything under control. DeLay’s been indicted, Frist is under investigation and cracking, Trent Lott is calling for Rove’s resignation, and Bush is showing absolutely no sign of the sort of flexibility he needs to get his house in order. We’re looking at a **big time** failed presidency, and that’ll bring the republicans down for a decade or more. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/149 "2005-11-03T05:14:27Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I’d have no problem if he lied or altered evidence. I think the War in Iraq needed to be fought, and if the public needed to be given something flashy to get behind it, than so be it. The President of the United States needs to do what is necessary from a realistic perspective, he can’t be concerned with the opinions of the vox populi, who in general are not capable of understanding important geopolitical issues. > > It isn’t a crime to lie, even if you’re President of the United States. In fact I think it’s a _necessity_ in many instances. Next time anybody asks me “What’s the scariest thing you’ve ever heard anyone say?” unless I’ve read the Collected Works of Henry Kissinger, this is what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/150 "2005-11-03T05:18:09Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Year five, for those of us who can actually count. > > And for the same group, the 2004 deficit was $109 billion lower than projections. > The part about oil gouging is merely paranoid foolishness on your part. > > As for the rest - neener neener neener. > > Regards, > Shodan They (the Bush adminstration) way over estimate the deficit projections so they can present the debt as good news. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/151 "2005-11-03T05:22:25Z")
I won a roll of GWB toilet paper in a raffle. If I keep it for a few more years, will it increase in value for a future eBay sale? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/152 "2005-11-03T05:22:50Z")
Latest CBS poll has him pegged at 35% which is _ding!ding!ding!_… a new low! ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/153 "2005-11-03T05:34:05Z")
Sorry, folks. Obviously, I meant did you vote for the pro-war, anti-gay marriage Republican candidate? Or the pro-war, anti-gay marriage Democrat? ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/154 "2005-11-03T05:36:05Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I’d have no problem if he lied or altered evidence. I think the War in Iraq needed to be fought, and if the public needed to be given something flashy to get behind it, than so be it. The President of the United States needs to do what is necessary from a realistic perspective, he can’t be concerned with the opinions of the vox populi, who in general are not capable of understanding important geopolitical issues. > > It isn’t a crime to lie, even if you’re President of the United States. In fact I think it’s a _necessity_ in many instances. So the ends really do justify the means, I take it. And why did the war in Iraq need to be fought? I’m looking for a reason which wasn’t a lie here. Which pretty much discounts Iraq-AQ connections and WMD. Bad guy, invaded other countries without provocation, ran rape rooms. Iraq 1991 or US in Iraq 2003? ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/155 "2005-11-03T05:36:58Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Sorry, folks. Obviously, I meant did you vote for the pro-war, anti-gay marriage Republican candidate? Or the pro-war, anti-gay marriage Democrat? Ahhhh. Ok. That makes sense. I voted for the one with the exit strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/156 "2005-11-03T05:42:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Latest CBS poll has him pegged at 35% which is _ding!ding!ding!_… a new low! Interesting. Did you know that that is the **highest** trough rating of any of the last seven sitting Presidents? ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/157 "2005-11-03T05:45:07Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Sorry, folks. Obviously, I meant did you vote for the pro-war, anti-gay marriage Republican candidate? Or the pro-war, anti-gay marriage Democrat? It wasn’t obvious at all, and it doesn’t surprise me that you see the issues in such simple terms. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/158 "2005-11-03T05:54:10Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Sorry, folks. Obviously, I meant… It was more fun the _other_ way. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/159 "2005-11-03T05:55:33Z")
Got a personal favorite? I think mine was when he stood there and swore up and down that he would exhaust every effort to avoid war. That does for lies what outer space does for empty. And how he was compelled to go to war because Saddam stubbornly refused to give up what he didn’t have in the first place! “Hand over yer invisible pink unicorns, or else!” ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134/160 "2005-11-03T06:01:51Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > So I guess when Bush said back in 2000 (A) You didn’t believe him because even an aspiring President needs to lie, or (B) You realize now he was lying back then but simply don’t care. I never read that specific quote when it actually happened, so I never had a chance to believe or disbelieve him. (B) I’d say he’s deceptive and that some of the things he said there were deceptive. I don’t necessarily view that as bad, in fact I certainly don’t view that as bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/year-ago-today-bush-re-elected-happy-now-assholes/329134.md?page=9)