# Yelling at each other about 9/11 (Split from the "How has Trump pissed you off today" thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482 "2024-08-09T02:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![umbrarchist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/umbrarchist/32/16356_2.png) [@umbrarchist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umbrarchist)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/361 "2024-08-22T13:47:18Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Well, I never saw them in person, I never went up in them. Prove to me they really existed! You can’t! ipso facti comprehenium! > > as always, I am > > Just Asking Questions I ignore stupid bullshit. If you cannot recognize it… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/362 "2024-08-22T13:48:53Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Well, I never saw them in person, I never went up in them. Prove to me they really existed! My brother lives in Manhattan and when we visited him he suggested we should go up to the top of the WTC. When the time came there was a sudden change of plan and he suggested something else instead. Coincidence? I think not! Actually I’m not sure my brother is real, either – he might be a hologram being transmitted by aliens from the distant planet Wackadoo 3. > [@umbrarchist](#): > > I find the lack of mention of the Conversation of Momentum particularly interesting. I’ve never really had a very interesting Conversation with Momentum. Your experience may differ. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/363 "2024-08-22T13:49:45Z")
> [@umbrarchist](#): > > If you cannot recognize it… Recognize what exactly? 'Cause I’m thinking we’re just a few posts away from you telling us the Towers weren’t real because there wasn’t enough steel in the lower sections to hold the upper sections up in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/364 "2024-08-22T13:50:19Z")
Sorry guys, I banned the troll. I’m going to ask @Miller to close this thread as it is attracting nutters and 9/11 CT crap is not actually suppose to be discussed any more on the board. I’m surprised no one flagged @umbrarchist. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/365 "2024-08-22T13:51:25Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Sorry guys, I banned the troll. Don’t be sorry! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/366 "2024-08-22T13:52:20Z")
When conspiracy theorists say “It makes no sense!”, it’s basically an admission of intellectual failing on their part. Case in point: > [@umbrarchist](#): > > One of the hilarious things about this is the discussion of the South Tower coming down first. The common claim is that since the impact was lower down it had to support more weight. But since it was lower down there should have been more steel therefore more difficult to heat. Then there is the matter of the South Tower impact not going into the core and the fireball exploding out the side of the building. > > The South Tower coming down first should be a red flag that something makes no sense. I’m not sure why this is “hilarious”, but it was more than amply explained by: > [@robby](#): > > With all of the variables involved with two different airliners colliding in a nearly uncontrolled fashion with the two towers in different manners, I don’t find it surprising in the least that one happened to collapse faster than the other. > > You should also read @Cervaise’s advice in Post #251 upthread. I run into this a lot on other topics as well, where the insistence that because things don’t follow in a logical manner from their premises something must sinister happened, rather than the much simpler explanation that their premises are wrong or incomplete. And now it’s closing time. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/367 "2024-08-22T13:52:29Z")
If we aren’t used to having our chew toys sent to that farm upstate by now when will we be? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/368 "2024-08-22T14:01:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And now it’s closing time. One last call for alcohol ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/369 "2024-08-22T14:02:04Z")
**umbrarchist** doesn’t have to go home but he can’t stay here. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/370 "2024-08-22T14:04:31Z")
I admit I was dubious when this thread got going, but it did have some value at first. And then the usual CT crowd showed up and reminded us all once again why any threads on this topic are just a waste of electons ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/371 "2024-08-22T14:04:51Z")
The fact that this thread is open led me to believe that TPTB didn’t regard JAQing off on 9/11 Truth as a problem. Mixed messages and whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/372 "2024-08-22T14:13:44Z")
Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/373 "2024-08-22T14:34:18Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Well, I never saw them in person, I never went up in them. I did. But now I’m not sure if the elevator up to the roof wasn’t some _Star Trek_-like holodeck. Maybe only the ground floor was real. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/374 "2024-08-22T14:48:51Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > But now I’m not sure if the elevator up to the roof wasn’t some _Star Trek_-like holodeck. Maybe only the ground floor was real. Exactly! I went “down” into the coal mine exhibit at the Museum of Science and Industry. By the speed of the rocks going up out the elevator screen, we must have descended hundreds of feet. I leaned later we went…into the basement! They were fooling me! It was a conspiracy! There are no coal mines beneath Chicago! Wake up sheeple! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/375 "2024-08-22T15:17:16Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Mixed messages and whatnot. Yeah, I had a report open but then figured this was a “feature not a bug” situation and closed it. I settled for finding this guy’s nonsense elsewhere on the web (he provided his pithy title upthread so it was very easy) and doing a series of self-satisfied nods in appreciation of my personal wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/376 "2024-08-22T16:38:24Z")
Postia before Closia… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/377 "2024-08-22T16:40:45Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Sorry guys, I banned the troll. I’m going to ask @Miller to close this thread as it is attracting nutters and 9/11 CT crap is not actually suppose to be discussed any more on the board. [Moderating] Yeah, this has gone on long enough. Thread closed. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/378 "2024-08-22T16:40:52Z")
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