# Yelling at each other about 9/11 (Split from the "How has Trump pissed you off today" thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482 "2024-08-09T02:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/101 "2024-08-10T14:20:43Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > He did open a can of worms, though - Mmmm, worms. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/102 "2024-08-10T14:21:42Z")
A moderator moved it, without making it clear. Poor form by the moderator, but you can see where it was excised from if you click the Trump thread link at the bottom of the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/103 "2024-08-10T14:32:16Z")
This is a good thread really. It keeps the CT oddballs in one place that is easily avoided. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/104 "2024-08-10T14:32:50Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > This is a good thread really. It keeps the CT oddballs in one place that is easily avoided. - Or pounced upon. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/105 "2024-08-10T14:34:44Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > WTC7 came down in about 10 seconds later the same day on 9/11. Check out the footage. As @nelliebly already pointed out, this is completely false. WTC7 collapsed hours after the attacks on WTC Tower 1 resulted in flaming debris being ejected and collided into the lower floors of WTC7, and how such a fire and collapse had not been seen previously because no building has ever experienced such a mass strike event. Here is a video discussing the extensive National Institutes of Science and Technology analysis of how the WTC7 collapse occurred: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PK_iBYSqEsc/hqdefault.jpg "NIST Video: Why the Building (WTC7) Fell") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK_iBYSqEsc) Get your basic facts straight before “just asking questions” and then arguing with everyone to critiques the validity of those questions. Dipshit. > [@Babale](#): > > He did open a can of worms, though _Walk without rhythm / It won’t attract the worm._ _Walk without rhythm / And it won’t attract the worm._ _Walk without rhythm / And it won’t attract the worm._ _If you walk without rhythm / Ha, you never learn, yeah!_ Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/106 "2024-08-10T15:20:58Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Mods, can we close this thread? [Moderating] No. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/107 "2024-08-10T15:35:48Z")
[Marcel Marceau] Non! [/Marcel Marceau] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/108 "2024-08-10T15:51:23Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > A moderator moved it, without making it clear. Poor form by the moderator, but you can see where it was excised from if you click the Trump thread link at the bottom of the OP. I thought my note made it clear, but I’ve added an explanation to the title so there’s no ambiguity. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/109 "2024-08-10T16:01:44Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > That was a good episode. Wait! You’re expecting me to believe that this is a “parallel” universe (where is it exactly? Explain that!) that’s just like ours, except…evil? That the Enterprise, coming from this evil terran empire, after having done god knows what evil episodes killing hortas, Archons, salt vampires, getting killed by Trelane, starting a war with the Romulans, and after all those different experiences, just _happens_ to be in the exact (Exact!) right position (though orbiting in the opposite direction! Yeah right!) with the exact same crew, that some never-before-seen transporter “malfunction” (how dangerous IS this thing?) “switches” four crewmembers, but NOT their uniforms!, between these “parallel universes” with their “evil opposites”. What rational thinking person would believe that bullshit! And that there’s only ONE “parallel universe”, not an infinite number? And that you can transfer between at will, and that no matter what century you are in, the parallel universe is always at the same level of technology, culture and location in space? And people who have no reason to be born the same in both universes are the same age and look exactly the same, doing the same job? How stupid do you think we are? Hey, I’m just asking questions! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/110 "2024-08-10T16:07:21Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I thought my note made it clear, but I’ve added an explanation to the title so there’s no ambiguity. Was to me. I’m gonna check on this thread, but it’s sort of like yelling at the rain when it comes down to CT’s. “You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.” ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/111 "2024-08-10T16:12:46Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > To be fair **Biffster** didn’t “open up a pit thread” Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/112 "2024-08-10T16:13:19Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > [Marcel Marceau] > Non! > [/Marcel Marceau] -What did he said?? -I don’t know, I don’t know French. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/113 "2024-08-10T16:25:32Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Thank you. But now that all of your questions have been answered, you withdraw your concerns about 9/11, right? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/114 "2024-08-10T16:31:38Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > > [@colinfred](#): > > > > To be fair **Biffster** didn’t “open up a pit thread” > > Thank you. To be really fair, we all noticed that it was separated from that thread for a justified reason. It does not change that you are wrong. > **[7 World Trade Center (1987–2001)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center_(1987%E2%80%932001))** > > 7 World Trade Center (7 WTC, WTC-7, or Tower 7), colloquially known as Building 7 or the Salomon Brothers Building, was an office building constructed as part of the original World Trade Center Complex in Lower Manhattan, New York City. The tower was located on a city block bounded by West Broadway, Vesey Street, Washington Street, and Barclay Street on the east, south, west, and north, respectively. It was developed by Larry Silverstein, who held a ground lease for the site from the Port Autho... ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/115 "2024-08-10T16:36:09Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > But now that all of your questions have been answered, you withdraw your concerns about 9/11, right? [![](https://i.imgflip.com/8zums7.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/8zums7.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/116 "2024-08-10T16:41:57Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > But now that all of your questions have been answered, you withdraw your concerns about 9/11, right? Not a chance. You’re not the thought police. Some people have provided me with things to research. But anyone who spoke to me in a truly ignorant manner I will disregard. I don’t need lectures from assholes, thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/117 "2024-08-10T16:46:36Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Some people have provided me with things to research. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/118 "2024-08-10T16:49:26Z")
Wow! I’ve often quoted Inigo Montoya too. Very clever! Which word troubles you? Research, or people? Or perhaps things? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/119 "2024-08-10T17:31:37Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I don’t need lectures from assholes, thank you very much. Well, I don’t need ‘just asking questions’ from imbeciles, so that suits. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/120 "2024-08-10T17:45:18Z")
I have three sincere, snark-free questions for you. Since you obviously got the erroneous notions you have from CT websites (which aren’t labeled as CT, of course), you’ve obviously looked into this topic before. How is it you never saw any of the sites showing evidence to the contrary? For instance, you said you saw photos of the crash site at Shanksville, and there was none of the debris you thought was typical of plane crashes. I Google image searched “Flight 93 debris”, and the first images all clearly showed debris, including the “black box.” It took less than 7 seconds, and I’m a slow typist. Did you merely look at the CT websites and do no research? And when will you be looking at the information and photos in the links we’ve provided for you here? None of them take long. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482.md?page=7)