# Yelling at each other about 9/11 (Split from the "How has Trump pissed you off today" thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482 "2024-08-09T02:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/121 "2024-08-10T18:00:00Z")
Got the reference-Loved the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/122 "2024-08-10T18:15:55Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Which word troubles you? We’ve passed troubled and we’re well into the point and laugh phase. _Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad._ – Spock ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/123 "2024-08-10T18:55:00Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > But anyone who spoke to me in a truly ignorant manner I will disregard. > [@nelliebly](#): > > when will you be looking at the information and photos in the links we’ve provided for you here? he will not - there could be good information there, answering ALL his questions - but people were not responding in a way he wanted and so he will not. Instead, he will continue to be 100% wrong ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/124 "2024-08-10T19:06:47Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I don’t need lectures from assholes, thank you very much. You kinda do. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/125 "2024-08-10T19:23:16Z")
You’d think he’d prefer listening to someone like him, wouldn’t you? And he kinda _does_, at that. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/126 "2024-08-10T19:45:21Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > _Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad._ > > – Spock Everything I say to you is a lie. Kirk ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/127 "2024-08-10T19:48:27Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > > [@Telemark](#): > > > > _Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad._ > > > > – Spock > > Everything I say to you is a lie. > > Kirk - You speak the truth. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/128 "2024-08-10T19:50:22Z")
I will ask @Biffster - What evidence do you have that it was something different than three airplanes crashing into buildings, and one drilling a hole in the ground. What do you have? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/129 "2024-08-10T19:53:37Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Hey, I’m just asking questions! I knew you were going to ask that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/130 "2024-08-10T19:54:43Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > there was no plane wreckage in either Shanksville or the Pentagon [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/UA93_livery_debris.jpg/220px-UA93_livery_debris.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/UA93_livery_debris.jpg/220px-UA93_livery_debris.jpg) [![](https://365.military.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/2021-09/pentagon-911-1200-1.jpg) ](https://365.military.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/2021-09/pentagon-911-1200-1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/131 "2024-08-10T20:41:41Z")
Y’all are great at feeding sea lions! Any of you live near San Fransisco, by chance? Heard there’s a bunch of them off Fisherman’s Wharf, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/132 "2024-08-10T20:59:45Z")
Well this one’s a blast from the past. I had to double check and make sure it was 2024 and not 2004. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/133 "2024-08-10T21:12:23Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > > [@Biffster](#): > > > > Some people have provided me with things to research. > > You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. He obviously doesn’t know what _ignorant_ means either. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/134 "2024-08-10T21:27:22Z")
Wow. Just … wow. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/135 "2024-08-10T21:59:35Z")
_"I can tell you things you possibly, no probably cannot believe…_ Kirk ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/136 "2024-08-10T22:11:17Z")
I think **Biffster** has the wrong Trek avatar, since the one he currently has would be face-palming himself over what his usurper has been spewing here. Maybe something like, oh I don’t know, Trelane of Gothos or Harry Fenton Mudd; perhaps even one of the Bonk Bonk On The Head Kids would be a bit more apropos. A Pakled, Ferengi, or a Kazon if we are talking about TNG-era. Oh wait, I got it: a Tribble. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/137 "2024-08-10T22:35:34Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I think **Biffster** has the wrong Trek avatar, since the one he currently has would be face-palming himself over what his usurper has been spewing here. > > Maybe something like, oh I don’t know, Trelane of Gothos or Harry Fenton Mudd; perhaps even one of the Bonk Bonk On The Head Kids would be a bit more apropos. A Pakled, Ferengi, or a Kazon if we are talking about TNG-era. > > Oh wait, I got it: a Tribble. - I don’t think @Biffster is cute and fuzzy. Pakleds, on the other hand, think they’re smart. But they’re not. > **[Pakled](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Pakled)** > > The Pakleds were a rotund humanoid species native to a planet known to them as Pakled Planet. The Pakleds were a humanoid species with a distinctive appearance. They had a round, mostly bald head with large brows covering much of their sloping... > The Pakleds were a species known for their limited intelligence and simplistic way of life. Their culture and society reflected this, with a focus on survival and acquiring technology by any means necessary. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/138 "2024-08-11T02:25:22Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > > [@nelliebly](#): > > > > when will you be looking at the information and photos in the links we’ve provided for you here? > > he will not - there could be good information there, answering ALL his questions - but people were not responding in a way he wanted and so he will not. It’s been 9 hours with no response, and my question was snark-free. Looks like you’re correct. (Not that I’m surprised.) ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/139 "2024-08-11T02:29:59Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > where’s was the wreckage of TWO airliners I used to know a former air crash investigator. He was part of the investigation of the Swissair crash into the Atlantic, off of Peggy’s Cove, Nova Scotia, in the fall of 1998. He told me that there wasn’t a piece bigger than a small coffee table. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482/140 "2024-08-11T02:33:44Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > It’s been 9 hours with no response, and my question was snark-free. Looks like you’re correct. (Not that I’m surprised.) Sorry, I missed your question. I will look when I have a chance. I am currently working on yard projects. This was meant to be a side discussion at best. I never asked for it to be put in its own category with me as the OP. Never once requested that, and the mods don’t seem to care. All I can do is choose not to be involved anymore, except perhaps to respond to the snark-free messages. Obviously, 9/11 happened, but there are some things that don’t make sense to me, and no amount of finger wagging on anyone’s part is going to shame into towing the forum line on this topic. I didn’t realize so many dopers were so closed to ANY kind of discussion on the topic (like I said, I wasn’t privy to the previous 23 years of conversations) or I would never have brought it up. I will take a look when I have time, but don’t hold your breath if you’re expecting an instant response. I saw some of the plane wreckage photos, but I’ve gotta say, that’s it? That’s an awfully small amount of wreckage for two airliners, compared with what I’ve seen from other crashes. Nonetheless, if that’s what there was, then that’s what thee was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yelling-at-each-other-about-9-11-split-from-the-how-has-trump-pissed-you-off-today-thread/1005482.md?page=8)