# Yellow and Blue Ocean Wave Logo(?) Sticker **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 6, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480 "2009-05-06T00:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![retsin2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@retsin2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/retsin2000)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/1 "2009-05-06T00:35:05Z")
I occasionally see these stickers on cars and I’m curious what they are. Unfortunately I have no photo so I’ll do my best to describe them, They are yellow and blue and depict stylized ocean surf. I have searched logos of surf companies to no avail. I live in Colorado and see one every month or so, sometimes less frequently. I have yet to see one in a parking lot where the owner of the vehicle is obvious or I’d just ask. It is pretty hard to search for an image based on the description and I have tried several times over the coarse of the last few years. I recently thought about it again because google is working on some technology that sounds like it might make this sort of search more possible - [http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/](http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/) But it isn’t really live yet as far as I can tell. Sound familiar anyone? Oh and yeah I haven’t posted in close to 7 years. Hi everyone! ---
**Author:** ![retsin2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@retsin2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/retsin2000)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/2 "2009-05-06T00:38:21Z")
I just realized that the thread currently directly below this one is also about stickers on cars. I didn’t see that before posting. That seems like a pretty big coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![spayced](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@spayced](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spayced)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/3 "2009-05-06T04:04:22Z")
The only ocean surf logo I know of is [quiksilver](http://www.quiksilver.com/home/index.jsp) and it’s sister Roxy ---
**Author:** ![Teacake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Teacake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teacake)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/4 "2009-05-06T13:42:56Z")
It’s not by any chance the Colorado Rapids logo is it? > **[Colorado Rapids Logos - Major League Soccer (MLS) - Chris Creamer's Sports...](https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/328)** > > The logo, uniform, and branding history of the Colorado Rapids (MLS) ---
**Author:** ![retsin2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@retsin2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/retsin2000)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/5 "2009-05-06T15:15:59Z")
> [@Teacake](#): > > It’s not by any chance the Colorado Rapids logo is it? > > [Colorado Rapids Logos History - Major League Soccer (MLS) - Chris Creamer's Sports Logos Page - SportsLogos.Net](http://www.sportslogos.net/team.php?id=328) Thanks for the replies, but unfortunately it is neither the Quicksilver nor the Rapids logos. I may try to draw it tonight but I’m worried that my artistic ability may make it harder to identify. ---
**Author:** ![Teacake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Teacake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teacake)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/6 "2009-05-06T16:09:15Z")
Colorado Crush? ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/7 "2009-05-06T19:10:03Z")
Assuming it’s a sports logo, perhaps you can put some local high school, college and university names into this [website](http://www.sportslogos.net/index.php) and find it? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/8 "2009-05-06T19:21:20Z")
Sometimes, gated communities or high-rent apartment complexes will have special decals for residents to place on their cars. Could it be one of those? ---
**Author:** ![retsin2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@retsin2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/retsin2000)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/9 "2009-05-06T21:29:07Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > Assuming it’s a sports logo, perhaps you can put some local high school, college and university names into this [website](http://www.sportslogos.net/index.php) and find it? Thanks again for the replies everyone. I should have mentioned originally that I’m pretty sure I have seen this thing in other parts of the U.S. too. If I remember right I saw it when I lived in Missouri and I may have seen it in PA while living there too. This has been bugging me for awhile. I sort of suspect it is associated with a band, although it is not this Phish logo: [http://www.hippieshop.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/16147#](http://www.hippieshop.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/16147#) Although that could be wrong as I don’t often see this sticker on cars with tons of other stickers. Maybe the next time I see one I’ll just have to follow the car until they park somewhere and ask. I’m sure that won’t scare anyone. ---
**Author:** ![longPath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@longPath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/longPath)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/10 "2009-05-06T22:53:30Z")
> [@retsin2000](#): > > I occasionally see these stickers on cars and I’m curious what they are. Unfortunately I have no photo so I’ll do my best to describe them, They are yellow and blue and depict stylized ocean surf. I have searched logos of surf companies to no avail. I live in Colorado and see one every month or so, sometimes less frequently. I have yet to see one in a parking lot where the owner of the vehicle is obvious or I’d just ask. > > It is pretty hard to search for an image based on the description and I have tried several times over the coarse of the last few years. > > I recently thought about it again because google is working on some technology that sounds like it might make this sort of search more possible - [http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/](http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/) But it isn’t really live yet as far as I can tell. > > Sound familiar anyone? > > Oh and yeah I haven’t posted in close to 7 years. Hi everyone! Hi retsin2000. Interesting that you should post this query. I was actually going to ask the same question about what I am sure is the same sticker to which you refer. I was planning to get a picture but not yet done so. I have been seeing this sticker on cars around Halifax for years. (some with CO tags…) I’ve never been sure, but, for some reason, suspect it has something to do with the Shambhala communuty which relocated here from Colorado. > [@](#): > > In 1986, Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche moved to Nova Scotia, where hundreds of his students had settled. I’ve been looking on-line but can’t find the wave design in question. I wonder if it was a parking sticker from Naropa University? ---
**Author:** ![jujuju](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@jujuju](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jujuju)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/11 "2009-05-06T22:57:57Z")
Could it be [Aqua East](http://www.aquaeast.com/)? ---
**Author:** ![retsin2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@retsin2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/retsin2000)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/12 "2009-05-06T23:23:13Z")
> [@longPath](#): > > Hi retsin2000. > > Interesting that you should post this query. I was actually going to ask the same question about what I am sure is the same sticker to which you refer. I was planning to get a picture but not yet done so. > > I have been seeing this sticker on cars around Halifax for years. (some with CO tags…) I’ve never been sure, but, for some reason, suspect it has something to do with the Shambhala communuty which relocated here from Colorado. > I’ve been looking on-line but can’t find the wave design in question. > > I wonder if it was a parking sticker from Naropa University? I think you are on to something longPath! I’m in the Boulder area (home of Naropa) as a matter of fact. I don’t think it is a parking pass as it has no dates on it. So what I’m going to try to do tomorrow is bring a camera to work in Boulder and try to fins a little time to drive over a satellite Naropa campus parking lot and look for the sticker in question. If it is a Shambhala thing I should find a car with it. If so I’ll take a picture and post it. I’m a little physical mobility challenged at the moment and the main Naropa campus parking lot is permit only so I won’t be able to get in there with my car and I can’t really walk around so well but the satellite campus should be good enough. ---
**Author:** ![longPath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@longPath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/longPath)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/13 "2009-05-06T23:44:47Z")
I just got off the phone with a friend who lives near a predominantly Buddhist neighbourhood here. She says the wave sticker is very common there but is unsure what it means. She is going to do some sluething and report back. LP ---
**Author:** ![longPath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bb73d2/32.png) [@longPath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/longPath)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/14 "2009-05-06T23:57:06Z")
I think this may be what we have been seeking: [http://www.shambhalashop.com/pubsonline/asp/product.asp?product=620&cat=101&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT\_ID=](http://www.shambhalashop.com/pubsonline/asp/product.asp?product=620&cat=101&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/15 "2009-05-07T00:24:12Z")
> [@longPath](#): > > I think this may be what we have been seeking: > > [http://www.shambhalashop.com/pubsonline/asp/product.asp?product=620&cat=101&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT\_ID=](http://www.shambhalashop.com/pubsonline/asp/product.asp?product=620&cat=101&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=) If that’s it, [this](http://www.dharma-haven.org/dream-flag.htm) is what it means. ---
**Author:** ![retsin2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@retsin2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/retsin2000)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yellow-and-blue-ocean-wave-logo-sticker/495480/16 "2009-05-07T00:27:35Z")
> [@longPath](#): > > I think this may be what we have been seeking: > > [http://www.shambhalashop.com/pubsonline/asp/product.asp?product=620&cat=101&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT\_ID=](http://www.shambhalashop.com/pubsonline/asp/product.asp?product=620&cat=101&ph=&keywords=&recor=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=) Yes! I was sort of looking forward to my field trip but that is okay. Excellent. It has quite the Boulder connection too. Some info on the Namchen Flag from [http://ny.shambhala.org/documents/CitySanghaSD07web.pdf](http://ny.shambhala.org/documents/CitySanghaSD07web.pdf) Dharma flowing like a wave through the world RAISING THE NAMCHEN BANNER ON SHAMBHALA DAY LAURA SIMMS WITH TINA MEYERHOFF In the early 1980s the Vidhyadhara Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche invited His Holiness the Sixteenth Karmapa, the Head of the Kagyu lineage and the manifestation of compassion, to visit the United States.While in Boulder, Colorado His Holiness presented several sangha members with a drawing of a banner that would proclaim peace. He said, “Wherever this flag flies, the Dharma will flourish.” He also said, “This flag will help the Dharma to flourish in the West.” Recently, as a result of meetings to begin the celebration of Trungpa Rinpoche’s Paravirvana (April 4), Phyllis Segura, who was the design director of the Vajradhatu Banner Studio in Boulder at that time and received and saved a copy of the drawing that initiated this conversation. Deborah Luscomb who remains the brocade seamstress for the Sakyong and continues to make “dream flags” , and Paul Hannon, shared their memories.As we gather for Shambhala Day and begin the Red Female Fire Pig year, we present this story. THE MEANING OF THE NAMCHEN FLAG Phyllis recalled,“According to what I remember the Vidyadahara saying, there are at least two yellows used in Tibetan iconography: Imperial Yellow or “High- Class Yellow” and another one, more like Cadmium Yellow, more orangey.The yellow of the Namchen Flag is the high-class yellow. Supposedly the Karmapa said the blue was there to indicate the world and the flag was meant to be a symbol of the “dharma flowing like a wave through the world.” His Eminence the Venerable Shamar Rinpoche explained, “ Traditionally, the wisdom of the Buddha is described as having two main aspects: all encompassing compassion, which extends to and benefits all beings and phenomena. ( In the design this is represented by the rich yellow-colored area.); and the wisdom of the complete and profound inner realization of the Buddha mind (represented by the deep blue section.).The curves in the design and the way that the colors meet represent the inseparability of these two aspects.The Namchen Banner is a manifestation of this Holiness’ enlightened vision. It was not just a dream. His Holiness predicted that the banner would bring great benefit to the Buddhadharma and to beings.” “The story started in 1980 when His Holiness the Karmapa was visiting Boulder,” Paul Hannon recounts. “He had an auspicious vision in a dream state where he saw this flag,When he awoke, he asked for drawing materials and paper…which was an unusual request for him. He produced the drawing [a copy of which is shown here]. His Holiness said “wherever this flag flies, the Dharma will flourish” and “This flag will help the Dharma flourish in the West.” Deborah Luscomb was called into His Holiness’s sitting room and shown the drawing.“I was the personal seamstress for His Holiness during this visit.,” Deborah recalls.“He was quite specific about the colors. I found it challenging to render a pattern from the sketch,” but with the help of a mathematician friend and a projector to enlarge the image, she sewed the first Dream Flag. Then the drawing went to the Vajradhatu Banner Studio. Phyllis explained that the Studio in Boulder was created around 1978.“We worked directly with him on designs, and created many of the banners we have today.We also created special gifts that the Vidyadhara offered to visiting dignitaries. Many of these banners no longer exist. “I recall someone showing up at the studio with a sketch in 1980, saying that His Holiness, who was visiting the United States, had had a dream about a new flag. Could we make it?” And so they did!